Pics of two former Sai university and school senior teachers being prayerful and reverential towards Madhu Baba during his "darshan"

Last updated on 21st April 2020

21st April 2020 Update: I had an inner urge to name-snip the names of some person(s) in this post and so have done so.

I am currently facing some health issues due to which I had initially decided not to write about such a sensitive matter thereby avoiding the emotional stress of writing the post and facing any negative reactions to it. I had hoped that some others would write on it in social media but I think that the Sai univeristy and Sai schools run directly under physical form Bhagavan till His Mahasamadhi, are so highly respected in the Sai fraternity that most people active on social media about Sai matters prefer to stay silent on these topics.

So I think I am the only guy who is willing to write about this topic on social media. My conscience is driving me to put up this public post. My view is that sharing these matters publicly will better inform the Sathya Sai fraternity in general, and the Sai educational institutions faculty in particular, about this sensitive topic. It is my fervent hope and prayer to Bhagavan Sri Sathya Sai Baba that current and former faculty of Sai university and schools become better acquainted with teachings and instructions of Bhagavan with respect to mediums and communicators (that he never uses them) and thereby avoid becoming Madhu Baba devotees like the two senior teachers seem to have become, going by the pics below.

Note that when Sai educational system senior teachers who had many interactions with physical form Bhagavan, become Madhu Baba devotees then it will surely influence some students and alumni of Sai educational systems to follow them and become Madhu Baba devotees themselves. That is the influence that such senior teachers have. So it is essential to educate those of such senior teachers who don't seem to know about Bhagavan's teachings and instructions regarding mediums and communicators, about them. Even after knowing these teachings and instructions of Bhagavan, if some senior teachers still associate with Muddenahalli group and view Madhu Baba as Bhagavan Sri Sathya Sai Baba at least when Madhu Baba is giving the darshan round or doing supposed "Lingodbhavam" then that is their choice and that is their destiny.

I think the claim made by Narasimhamurthy to be dream-instruction medium of Bhagavan and then the claim made by Madhusudan Rao Naidu that he is the chosen communicator who can see and interact with a so called subtle body of Bhagavan which almost nobody else can see and interact with, are the greatest spiritual tests for faculty of the Sai educational institutions in this immediate post Mahasamadhi period. Very crucially and very unfortunately for the Sai university, the then sitting vice-chancellor (VC) of Sai university, Prof. --Name1-snipped--, privately supported Narasimhamurthy dream-instruction medium claim from around Jul 2011 (when Narasimhamurthy made the claim) till Nov. 2014 when --Name1-snipped-- stepped down as VC. The day after he stepped down as VC he was publicly seen attending the Bhagavan birthday event at Muddenahalli (he was on stage perhaps)! Since then he has publicly endorsed Muddenahalli group and is seen publicly at their events even now. But --Name1-snipped-- had limited interactions with Bhagavan physical form as faculty/administrator of SSSIHL as he became VC only in June 2010 or so. So his lack of significant exposure to physical form Bhagavan as faculty/administrator of Sai university, seems to have been his Achilles heel which led him to fall prey to Narasimhamurthy's dream-instruction medium claim.

But the two senior teachers whose pics are shared below have served in Sai educational institutions while Bhagavan was in physical form, for decades I believe! Them being prayerful and reverential to Madhu Baba is something that has deeply disturbed me.



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Here's the video of the event (92nd Birthday event at Muddenahalli): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2qvPUtxxbwA from which the above pic has been taken.

The concerned former senior sports teacher/faculty is Shri Gopi from Brindavan campus. I personally have seen how hard Shri Gopi worked at events like Grama Seva. So I have the view that he is a very dedicated and hard worker for the Sathya Sai mission. While I knew that he was now associated with Muddenahalli group, watching him in the above video being prayerful towards Madhu Baba was a shock, and was very disturbing.


The video associated with the above pic is: Thursday Satsang : 07th December, 2017, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hy1bEdoN_pg.

I believe the name of the above senior teacher formerly from Sathya Sai Higher Secondary school in Puttaparthi/Prasanthi Nilayam, is Shri Venkateswarulu (I may have got the spelling incorrectly and my apologies if so). I was told he taught Mathematics and was very respected as a teacher. Now I believe he is playing the role of warden in Muddenahalli school.

It is really astonishing to me who was a free service teacher in Prasanthi Nilayam campus of Sai university from Jan. 2003 to Mar. 2012 with designations of Honorary Staff/ Honorary Faculty/ Visiting Faculty, to see these two senior teachers be prayerful towards somebody who either was their former student (Shri Gopi) or is similar to former students of theirs. I mean, normally it is the other way around! What an extraordinary jump in spiritual status for Madhu Baba!!!

I cannot but help recall hearing Bhagavan discourse live sometime in 2000s decade, while I was sitting in Sai Kulwant Hall, where Bhagavan told us that we should not take Padanamaskar of Him from then on because we are all God and so God should not take Padanamaskar of God (or words to that effect). I bore his teachings in mind on this matter even though it was too much, and is still too much, for me to think of myself as God due to the many human flaws that I still have. But some others continued, in future, to take His Padanamaskar which Bhagavan did not object to.

After Mahasamadhi, my view of these words of Bhagavan is that Bhagavan was trying to raise us to higher spiritual levels as He knew that He would be giving up the body in a few years time. So He wanted us to believe in ourselves as divine and forge ahead in our spiritual journey. The voice of your conscience is the voice of God is what Bhagavan taught us!

As far as I know, in no discourse that Bhagavan gave in Sai Kulwant Hall after Oct. 2002 till Mahasamadhi in which period I was in Prasanthi Nilayam system, did Bhagavan ever hint at using a medium or a communicator after he gave up his body. Instead, it seems to me now looking back on this period, that he wanted us to raise ourselves from dependence on physical form of Bhagavan to move to formless aspect of Bhagavan who, Bhagavan Himself told us, is always there in the depths of the hearts of each one of us.

Given this background, I find it very disappointing to see these two senior teachers of Sai educational systems with many interactions with physical form Bhagavan, choose to accept the claim of Madhu Baba of being the so called chosen communicator of a so called subtle body of Bhagavan based in Muddenahalli which only he and almost nobody else can see and interact with - I mean, there are no other publicly designated communicators of this so called Muddenahalli subtle body. I am quite sure that Shri Gopi and Shri Venkateswarulu cannot see this so called subtle body - that is why they are reverential towards Madhusudan Rao Naidu and not any invisible body imagined to be next to Madhusudan Rao Naidu. Let us hope and pray that other faculty of Sai educational systems, especially senior faculty with many interactions with physical form Bhagavan, steer clear of this spiritual delusion dreamed up by Narasimhamurthy and Madhusudan Rao Naidu. Jai Sairam!
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Given below are comments of mine (slightly edited) from my Facebook post, https://www.facebook.com/ravi.s.iyer.7/posts/2034275476789019, associated with this blog post:

I think it is tough for students to write about their teachers, in this matter.

I learned the hard way that when we kept quiet about what was going on from Jul 2011 to end 2014, Muddenahalli group was able to grow exponentially! So the approach of just ignoring them and not exposing them, allowed them to grow! That has been a great lesson for me about Muddenahalli group and the vital need for exposing their false claims. That is why I got involved in this matter from March 2015 onwards on social media as thousands of Sathya Sai devotees worldwide were getting trapped in their false claims.

That is why I have put up this post targeted at faculty of Sai educational systems. Hopefully this post will hold back some such faculty from falling in the trap of Madhu Baba!
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Thank you so much --name-snipped-- for your support. This task that I have taken upon myself to expose false claims of Muddenahalli group is a VERY, VERY LONELY task with the added bonus of becoming a target of fierce opposition from some Muddenahalli supporters :-(. So your open support for my work in this regard is very welcome and very encouraging indeed. Thanks again and may Bhagavan Sri Sathya Sai Baba bless you for speaking up for Bhagavan's publicly shared teachings and instructions with regard to mediums and communicators (not to believe in them).
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About “Thousands of years before, a very powerful line was said in the 'Vedas', that is, “Yatha Drishti, tatha Srishti!”. It means, how you see the world, the world will appear to you in the same way.”, and eminent personalities associated with Bhagavan promoting Muddenahalli as well :

For me personally, this Muddenahalli saga brought alive the two incidents in Mahabharata where senior nobles and teachers of the Kaurava court like Bhishmacharya and Dronacharya chose to stay silent when Adharma was being done right in front of them. The first was when Draupadi was attempted to be stripped of her clothes in open court which was prevented by a miracle prompted by her prayer to Krishna. The second was when Krishna went as a peace envoy to the Kaurava court to appeal for a compromise solution to prevent war right before the Mahabharata war began. Krishna's peace offer was rejected in a rather humiliating fashion. Bhishmacharya and Dronacharya were silent witnesses to this Adharma committed right in front of them, when they surely had the ability to voice their disapproval of such behaviour from the Kaurava prince Duryodhana and his supporters. Vidura chose to object in the second case, and chose to leave the Kaurava capital instead of associating with the war that followed. Vidura stood up for Dharma to the extent he could.

As I said earlier, this Muddenahalli drama is the biggest spiritual test in this immediate post-Mahasamadhi phase of Sathya Sai movement, especially for Sai educational systems faculty. Bhagavan showered great love and attention on faculty, especially his own students who had become faculty, as he expected them to be moulders of character and spiritual values of coming generations of students taught in Sai educational systems. Regular faculty who served Bhagavan for decades were given extraordinary access to physical form Bhagavan.

That the betrayal of Bhagavan's teachings came from such senior faculty themselves - Narasimhamurthy the long-time warden of Brindavan campus of Sai university who then completely roped in not only Prof. --Name1-snipped--, then vice-chancellor of Sai university, but many of the other senior faculty of Sai university including some student-staff in powerful administrative positions in the Sai university (e.g. --Name2-snipped--, then director Prasanthi Nilayam campus, --Name3-snipped-- then and current Registrar of Sai university) - led to a period of spiritual darkness in the Sai university when Asathya-Adharma of Narasimhamurthy dream-instruction medium claim ruled top echelons of Sai university from Jul 2011 to Nov. 2014 when --Name1-snipped-- stepped down as Vice-Chancellor.

During this dark spiritual period in the Sai university when Narasimhamurthy had great power over its top echelons, most of the other faculty and staff simply followed Narasimhamurthy and --Name1-snipped-- (and quislings, --Name3-snipped-- and --Name2-snipped--). Yatha Raja Tatha Praja - As is the king so are the subjects. This is the reality of what happened in the Sai university in that very dark spiritual period for the Sai university.

In the case of Alike school, the revered veteran Shri Gangadhar Bhat who also got caught up in Narasimhamurthy and then later Madhusudan Naidu's false claim, eventually not only broke away from them in late 2015/early 2016 but also PUBLICLY acknowledged his mistakes and proclaimed Madhu Baba claim of so called chosen communicator of Sathya Sai Baba as false. In the case of Sai university, there has been no such remorse and public acknowledgement for mistakes committed. Instead the traitor-collaborators (quislings) have covered up the wrongs they have done including against the loyalist and veteran Prof. Anilkumar Kamaraju by forcing him out of the Sai university in mid 2012, and continue to sit in powerful positions in the Sai university or the ashram system! Such is life in Prasanthi Nilayam ashram system now!

Coming to terms with these very unpleasant realities is a very difficult task. It is far easier to take an observer approach and say all is God's Leela and that God's will will be done. Perhaps that's what Bhishmacharya and Dronacharya may have thought at the time they chose to remain silent when Adharma was being done in the Kaurava court in front of their eyes, even though they had the ability to speak up against Adharma. [If some people are in too weak a position to speak up against Adharma then one understands their plight. But it is when they are in a strong position and can make a difference by speaking up for what is right, that their failure to speak up for what is right, becomes a significant spiritual flaw, in my considered opinion.]

Then there seems to be another school of opinion on this Muddenahalli matter. They consider that they have spiritual philosophy and associated spiritual practices which are superior to that of physical form Bhagavan Sri Sathya Sai Baba and what he taught and directed in his Prasanthi Nilayam ashram! But they want to use the name of Sathya Sai Baba for their spiritual philosophy and associated spiritual practices which is combination of selected teachings of Sathya Sai, rejection of some teachings of Sathya Sai (e.g. related to mediums and communicators, and about open solicitation of donation money), and incorporation of their own teachings delivered under the guise of dream-instructions and "communications" from so called subtle body of Sathya Sai based in Muddenahalli.

So that is their "Drishti" (vision). And their Srishti (creation) of Muddenahalli group is as per that "Drishti" of theirs!

The question is whether the Drishti is a Drishti based on Sathya and Dharma or a Drishti based on Asathya and Adharma! To me, the big issue is that they have HIJACKED the name of Sathya Sai for their modified (distorted and diluted) spiritual philosohpy. That is grave Asathya and Adharma. And I see it as my vital duty to my beloved and revered Gurudev Bhagavan Sri Sathya Sai Baba to NOT stay silent like Bhishmacharya and Dronacharya did in the Kaurava court in the incidents mentioned earlier, but to speak up for Sathya and Dharma.

If they had spread their modified spiritual philosophy and practices under the name of Narasimhamurthy Baba and Madhu Baba, all of my above objections would have vanished. Then they would not have STOLEN the HOLY NAME of Sathya Sai for their spiritual movement, and would have demonstrated the spiritual guts to have preached their spiritual gospel in THEIR OWN NAME.

Some may prefer to take a Bhishmacharya and Dronacharya approach and be silent witnesses to the Muddenahalli false belief drama unfolding in front of them. That is their choice. Jai Sairam!
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