Sunday, November 27, 2016

PM Narendra Modi gave video-link talk at inauguration of Haryana hospital of Muddenahalli group but DID NOT SHARE stage with Madhusudan Rao Naidu

Last updated on 28th Nov. 2016

I was watching the live video stream of the inauguration of the Baghola, Haryana free hospital of Muddenahalli group, Sri Sathya Sai Sanjeevani International Center for Child Heart care and Research Opening, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tXVcacKBG_4.

My Net connection was a little flaky so there were some breaks in the stream feed. But I got the general idea of what was going on there.

The important thing to share is that PM Shri Narendra Modi DID NOT SHARE the stage with Madhusudan Rao Naidu!!! He gave a talk via video-link where he was very appreciative of Bhagavan Sri Sathya Sai Baba and the activities Bhagavan inspired. He gave his best wishes and praise for the free service to humanity that the Chhattisgarh hospital of Muddenahalli group has done, and the service that this new free hospital in Haryana will do. PM Modi also offered his respects to Sri Indulal Shah and another person (Sri Naik?).

PM Modi, speaking in Hindi, said that Swami is available to us in 'sukskma roop' (subtle form) and 'har pal me' (at every moment). I think the Sukshma roop reference of PM Modi was a generic one indicating that after Swami's Mahasamadhi, Swami is now accessible to us in a subtle way (formless way, shall I say) and is available at every moment. I think it will be an extraordinary stretch of interpretation if Muddenahalli group attempts to use these words of PM Modi to mean that PM Modi has acknowledged the claim of Madhusudan Rao Naidu and has acknowledged the so called Muddenahalli based 'subtle body' which is visible and audible and converses only through Madhusudan Rao Naidu.

There was NO REFERENCE that I could catch in PM Modi's speech to either Madhusudan Rao Naidu or to Shri B.N. Narasimhamurthy.

I plan to view the video that Muddenahalli group will put up (after the live event is over) to confirm what I have written above.

Unless I missed something in my flaky net connection live stream video OR there is some other claim that Muddenahalli group may say about some private interview that PM Modi had with Madhusudan Rao Naidu, it seems to me that PM Modi has DONE NOTHING in this inauguration event to PROMOTE or ENDORSE the FALSE CLAIM of Madhusudan Rao Naidu of being a so called communicator of Bhagavan Sri Sathya Sai Baba. I find that to be a great relief! But, as I said, I need to confirm it from a proper viewing of the video.
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In the associated Facebook post of mine,
https://www.facebook.com/ravi.s.iyer.7/posts/1824219464461289, a Muddenahalli group supporter wrote, "He already knows about the happenings in the subtle form and has also had a personal interaction during his last visit to another hospital", before going on to say that it can be ignored and that the focus should be on Swami's wonderful mission and so on. I (Ravi) responded as follows (slightly edited):
Sairam brother --name-snipped--. Thanks for your comment.

What is on record is that while Hon'ble PM Narendra Modi and Hon'ble chief minister of Chhattisgarh Raman Singh have been appreciative of Muddenahalli group's service to humanity, neither of them have said anything whatsoever publicly about Madhusudan Rao Naidu's CLAIM of being a so called communicator of a so called subtle body of Bhagavan Sri Sathya Sai Baba. For officials who hold elected and powerful public offices like PM Modi or CM Raman Singh, it is their publicly expressed statements that are vital.

You have claimed a private meeting between PM Modi and Madhusudan Rao Naidu during PM Modi's visit to Naya Raipur hospital some months (perhaps a year) ago. That does not really matter to me as it is not verifiable and one does not know what PM Modi thought about Madhusudan Naidu's claim, after the supposed private meeting.

I will get really worried if PM Modi or CM Raman Singh or Union ministers Ananth Kumar and Prakash Jawadekar publicly endorse the FALSE CLAIM of Madhusudan Rao Naidu. By Bhagavan Sri Sathya Sai Baba of Puttaparthi's Grace, that has NOT HAPPENED so far, as far as I know.
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Request to Hon'ble PM Narendra Modi NOT to share stage with FAKE communicator Madhusudan Rao Naidu

According to youtube video live stream, Sri Sathya Sai Sanjeevani International Center for Child Heart care and Research Opening, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tXVcacKBG_4, Hon'ble Prime Minister of India, Shri Narendra Modi is expected to inaugurate Muddenahalli group's new and free hospital in Baghola, Haryana, near Delhi, today (27th Nov. 2016) at 5.20 PM.

I felt it appropriate to link to my "Open Letter to PM Modi & HRD minister Javadekar on Madhusudan Rao Naidu false claim of communicator of Sathya Sai Baba" blog post, http://ravisiyer.blogspot.in/2016/09/open-letter-to-pm-modi-hrd-minister.html, dated Sept. 14th 2016. That open letter did not get a suitable response from either PM's office or HRD minister's office.

I would now like to earnestly request Hon'ble PM Narendra Modi NOT to share the stage with Madhusudan Rao Naidu at this free hospital inauguration event, and avoid doing something (like having an "interview"/meeting with Madhusudan Rao Naidu) that Muddenahalli group can use to claim that PM Modi has endorsed the claim of Madhusudan Rao Naidu of being a so called communicator of Bhagavan Sri Sathya Sai Baba.

Madhusudan Rao Naidu is misguiding thousands of Sathya Sai devotees around the world with his FALSE CLAIM of being a so called communicator of Bhagavan Sri Sathya Sai Baba, when Bhagavan Sri Sathya Sai Baba has publicly and unambiguously, on multiple occasions, declared that he never communicates to devotees using mediums or communicators, and that his relationship with his devotees is DIRECT and heart-to-heart.

I should also say that I have no objections whatsoever to the service to humanity work being done by Muddenahalli group with this new and free hospital in Baghola, Haryana (near Delhi). I congratulate them and wish them all the very best for this service activity that they are doing.

I earnestly pray to Bhagavan Sri Sathya Sai Baba to ensure that his devotees are not misguided further by the FALSE CLAIMS of so called communicator, Madhusudan Rao Naidu, and to ensure that Madhusudan Rao Naidu does not manage to misguide powerful leaders of the country like Hon'ble PM Modi with his FALSE CLAIMS. Jai Sairam!
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Readers may want to view this later post of mine, PM Narendra Modi gave video-link talk at inauguration of Haryana hospital of Muddenahalli group but DID NOT SHARE stage with Madhusudan Rao Naidu, http://ravisiyer.blogspot.in/2016/11/pm-narendra-modi-gave-video-link-talk.html, Nov. 27th 2016.

Friday, November 25, 2016

Background to pic of Sai student (Vennel), peacock and Swami; Vennel is now vice-principal of a Telangana school

A few days back bro. Clive Raj Valydon had put up the pic of a Sai student holding up a peacock for Swami to see & bless from up close. Here's his Facebook post, https://www.facebook.com/sathyanarayana.raju.9/posts/903166386486513, dated Nov. 22nd 2016. I have given the pic below. Thanks Clive for sharing the pic.



I enjoyed the pic but did not focus on the profile view of the Sai student holding the peacock. Later it struck me that it seemed to be that of brother Vennel Raj from the Biosciences department, whom I had interacted with many times, and who is on my regular mailing list even today. I have given below our mail exchange on it (slightly edited).

I (Ravi) wrote to Vennel:

Can you confirm that it is you in the pic? If it is you, can you share more info. about the pic - when, more background ... Can you also tell me your period of stay in Swami educational system? May I also share your current position (if so, you will have to share that as well)?
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Vennel wrote back:

Yes sir, it is me only. This was on one of the Krishna astami occasions. Year, I do not remember exactly. Must be when I was doing my M.Phil at SSSIHL. I got this beautiful chance to be with the peacock for taking our beloved Sai Krishna's blessings. I was so Happy on that Krishna astami day, as I craved for such chance every year, being a Yadava boy. Thanks to the warden Shiva Shankar Sai sir for giving that nice opportunity. Swamy was very Happy seeing the peacock...

[Ravi: I think Vennel's full name is Vennel Raj Yadav indicating that his clan is the Yadava clan. Krishna was also from the Yadava clan. More on Yadavas can be seen here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yadava.]

Sir, I studied @ parthy and served our bhagawan for 13 years. I belong to 1999 batch. All 13 years I was at parthy only sir.

I am currently working as vice principal @ Shasta school @ kalwakurthy..I am continuing the same swami's work here also (moulding children into good human beings). Swamy is still taking care of me and my family. This life of vennel is only for serving bhagawan...
Lots of love to you.
Thank you for sharing swami's love...
Humble Pranams.
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PS: sir, no problem if you share this information with other devotees of our bhagawan.
Jai sai Ram.

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I wrote back (inline comments in mail):

Wonderful! Thanks for sharing. Which were the years you were doing M. Phil?
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So you started in Parthi in 1999? 1999 to 2012, I guess. Did you join for your F.Y. B.Sc. or was it earlier?
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Thanks brother. Will do so (sharing with others) later. I think it will give joy to some readers of my posts. Jai Sairam!
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Vennel wrote back:
Respected Sir,
Sai Ram!
Sir, I joined SSSIHL in the year 1999 for B.Sc Degree Course.
I completed B.Sc in the year 2002,
M.Sc in the year 2004
M.Phil in the year 2006
Ph.D in the year 2013.

So it must be in the year 2005/2006 [Ravi: Vennel is referring to the year the pic was taken.]

THANK YOU SIR.
HUMBLE PRANAMS..
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Vennel also wrote another mail:
Some pics of swamy school children  during swami's birthday celebrations @ kalwakurthy sai mandir. they offered two dance sequences to take swami's birthday special blessings. [Ravi: I have given those three pics too below in this post. You can see Vennel in one of the pics standing behind the students and to the right in the pic. The school is in Telangana state, I believe in a place called Kalwakurthy.]




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I wrote back:
Wonderful! I think adding these pics to my post will add beauty and make the post more attractive. But would it be OK to share pics of these children? [Any problem if pics are shared?]
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Vennel wrote back:
Not at all sir, You can share the pictures. We are swamis children..
lots of love
from all of us.
jai sai ram
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Ravi: I would also like to share that during some of the years of my (free) service in the Sai university (from Jan. 2003 to Mar. 2012), I would get to see these peacocks on every day that I would visit the Prasanthi Nilayam campus. This is because, for some years, the peacocks were housed in a rather large cage in the campus quadrangle very close to the entrance of the Department of Mathematics and Computer Science (DMACS), Computer Lab (called AI Lab) where I used to sit. I have even seen the peacocks spread out their beautiful feathers and enjoyed it from a very close distance. It was a wonderful and uplifting sight. Later the peacocks were moved out to some other place, if I recall correctly.

Brother Vennel was with the Biosciences department and I believe the responsibility at a top level, of taking care of these pets of Swami was that of the Biosciences department.

I must also say that Dr. Vennel Raj was and continues to be a very humble and loving Sai student and now Sai university alumnus. I hold him in high regard for his adherence to the values that Bhagavan tried very hard to instill in his students. I am so glad to know that he continues to serve Bhagavan in the regular world outside through being a vice-principal of a school in Telangana state of India, where he seems to be doing his level best to mould school children under his care into good human beings using the teachings that Bhagavan Sri Sathya Sai Baba taught him and us.

I pray earnestly to Bhagavan Sri Sathya Sai Baba to shower His Grace on the students, teachers, and other staff of Vennel's school and on Vennel, in their efforts to learn/instill Sai human values.
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Vennel wrote (and was OK with public sharing):
Thank you sir for your encouraging words.
I will consider your love as swami's direct blessings..
Love you sir.
My Humble Pranams!!
Yours vennela.
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I (Ravi) responded (slightly edited):

Bro. Vennel, I am just a spiritual aspirant with my fair share of human flaws. But I think I do have a fairly good understanding of what Bhagavan approved and was happy about and what he was either not interested in or even disapproved. What you have done by becoming a school administrator (vice-principal) who tries to inculcate Sai human values in the school children, is something, I am very sure, that Bhagavan will be very happy about.

To be honest, I think what you are doing would give Bhagavan far more happiness as you are contributing to moulding the new generations, than if you were doing Biosciences research which publishes a few papers and earns UGC and NAAC appreciation but does not really do much in terms of promoting Sathya, Dharma, Shanti & Prema values in society. It is the latter that is sorely needed in society today where Sai alumni should come to the fore. I hope more and more Sai education systems alumni learn from examples like yours and try to do their bit to contribute to Sai human values teaching in schools across the country, even if they do it as a part-time activity.
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Given below is a comment on my Facebook post, https://www.facebook.com/ravi.s.iyer.7/posts/1823247777891791, associated with this blog post.

Terry Reis Kennedy wrote:
Such a loving story. And how sweet is Swami's expression in the photo.
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Thursday, November 24, 2016

Three new trustees inducted into Sathya Sai Central Trust; one trustee retires

Given below is an extract from press release note dated 23rd Nov. 2016 on the Sri Sathya Sai Central Trust website, http://www.srisathyasai.org.in/Pages/Announcements/CTPressRelease23aNov2016.htm.

.. Sri Naganand then announced the induction of three new trustees to the ​Sri Sathya Sai Central Trust, namely Sri J.S.R.C.V Prasad​ Rao, the present Secretary to the Sri Sathya Sai Central Trust, Dr.M.V Mohan, the internationally renowned  diabetologist and Shri Vijaya Bhaskar, the Retired Executive Director of RBI.

Sri V Srinivasan, long-serving Trustee and long time devotee of Bhagawan Baba has announced his retirement as Trustee, owing to old age.
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RBI stands for Reserve Bank of India, which is India's top central banking authority.

With this induction, I think the current strength of the trustees in Sri Sathya Sai Central Trust (SSSCT) is nine, which I think is the full strength. It had been down to seven for many months. It is good to see that it is now at full strength again.

As a senior trustee, it seems to me that Sri V. Srinivasan played a major role in handling the post-Mahasamadhi trauma and confusion that prevailed in Prasanthi Nilayam. I recall him being at the forefront in one of the first press meets after Mahasamadhi. He showed leadership in handling the situation then and facing the press which fired many questions at the trustee team. Most of the responses, if I recall correctly, came from V. Srinivasan then.

I think he deserves great appreciation for his leadership role along with the role of those SSSCT trustees who remained loyal to Prasanthi Nilayam, in ensuring that all institutions of Prasanthi Nilayam continued to function despite various challenges. Imagine the trauma that he and other trustees would have faced in handling seniormost leader of Sai orgn and SSSCT trustee, Sri Indulal Shah, and the then vice-chancellor of Sai university (till Nov. 2014), Sashidhara Prasad, who had become followers of Narasimhamurthy's dream instructions (and later Madhusudan Rao Naidu), and opposed the SSSCT (majority) view which rejected these claims of Narasimhamurthy and Madhusudan Rao Naidu.

I think we Sathya Sai devotees should be - I certainly am - thankful to Sri V. Srinivasan for his services to Bhagavan's Prasanthi Nilayam based mission, especially in the traumatic post-Mahasamadhi one to two years period. And we should - I certainly do - wish him all the best for the future.

I think the new trustees being inducted seem to be responsible and knowledgeable people from various fields. I am glad to see such trustees being inducted. I guess all the trustees would be providing their services in an honorary capacity. I think that youngsters (including relatively young persons :-) ) in Prasanthi Nilayam system, especially paid Sai student-staff, can always contribute to the mission to their fullest wishes and desires, under the guidance of knowledgeable and responsible elders handling the (honorary) trustee responsibility. Being made an SSSCT trustee, IMHO, is not so much of a title being acquired as it is a responsibility to steer the mother trust in implementing Bhagavan's mission. Relatively young and paid Sai student-staff of Prasanthi Nilayam system may not really be in a position to handle such trustee responsibilities besides the issue of them not typically being in a position to offer honorary service.

Please note that Shri Vijaya Bhaskar, one of the newly appointed trustees, seems to be an old student of Sai education system under Bhagavan's direct guidance (Sri Sathya Sai Arts & Science college, Brindavan, Bangalore) in the 70s. Here's a Feb. 2016 article written by him for Radio Sai, THE GUIDE, THE GURU AND THE LOVING GOD, http://media.radiosai.org/journals/vol_14/01FEB16/The-guide-the-guru-and-the-loving-God-P-Vijaya-Bhaskar.htm, which gives some background about him including his days as a student in Bhagavan's Brindavan college in the 70s.

I pray to Bhagavan to shower His Grace on the new SSSCT trustees in their efforts to contribute to Bhagavan's mission in their new role as trustees of SSSCT.

Sunday, November 20, 2016

Need to inspire trust in Prasanthi Nilayam trustees' stand against Muddenahalli group; Two or three Sai students becoming trustees may worsen the problem!

Last updated on 2nd Dec. 2016

Comment exchange on Stephen Rexford post, https://www.facebook.com/notes/stephen-rexford/mr-narendra-reddy-chairman-prashanti-council-should-resign-as-he-is-completely-e/418873328500963, is given below. Note that SSSCT stands for Sri Sathya Sai Central Trust, Prasanthi Nilayam (Puttaparthi). Further note that the words 'firing the gun' or similar in this post are metaphorical, referring to verbal (words) vicious criticism targeting some person(s), and not literal.

Ravi S. Iyer wrote:
If it is true that there is (or will be) an orgn. about which an announcement was made in Sai Kulwanth Hall, having Dr. Narendranath Reddy's wife as a member of that orgn. and which has other members who OPENLY associate with Muddenahalli group, then Dr. N. Reddy MUST issue a statement on the matter clarifying his stand. About his in-laws being associated with Muddenahalli group - I think that is a different matter. Dr N. Reddy is not answerable to what his in-laws do. But in this case, I think a clarification is necessary.

I think the Sri Sathya Sai Central Trust which is the mother organization responsible for Prasanthi Nilayam must also issue a statement in this regard (if the report is true).

I think that lack of trust in top office bearers of Sai orgn. with regard to Muddenahalli FALSE BELIEF is a POISONOUS PROBLEM for the Prasanthi Nilayam based Sathya Sai movement. I have personally faced that problem in the Sai university in 2011-12 (after Mahasamadhi), and have personally seen the GREAT DAMAGE that the Asathya-Adharma crook and traitor Sashidhara Prasad supported by Asathya-Adharma crook QUISLINGS in the Sai university (some of whom still continue to be in positions of power in the Sai university and elsewhere in the Sai orgn) have done to the spiritual ideals (Sathyam Vada Dharmam Chara) that the founder of the institution laid down for it. I think it will take decades, I repeat, decades for the Sai university to recover from the DAMAGE done to its founder's spiritual vision for the Sai university by the POISONOUS BETRAYAL of Sathyam Vada Dharmam Chara ideal by traitors and quislings in it (past and present).
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Vr Ganti wrote:
Stephen Rexford - WHY FEAR WHEN SWAMI IS AROUND. Dont you think, you should not be writing anonymous notes and comments. You come out in the open and make comments and thus many would rally behind you. Dont pass comments like COWARD Sir. Many, mostly from Sai Students, will join you and we all can work together. I am saying this because you are working in Bangalore for a software company. That is what you told me, if I remember right.
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Ravi S. Iyer wrote:
I should also add that SHAMELESS HYPOCRISY is very unfortunately a common feature in some people in Prasanthi Nilayam system. They talk great ideals but their actions are opposite! Cheppinattu Chestara is a question that can be asked of some of these persons. Surely, it can be asked of some administrators (past & present) of the Sai university.
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Vr Ganti wrote:
Stephen Rexford Garu - The entire SAI Fraternity holds SAI STUDENTS in high esteem and therefore, I am asking you to come out in the open and reveal your identity. Also identity those "OLD BOYS" who are working with you. What you are doing may be called PROXY WAR which does not augur well in the minds of SAI DEVOTEES.
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Ravi S. Iyer wrote:
Vr Ganti sir, I disagree with your statement that the entire SAI FRATERNITY holds SAI STUDENTS in high esteem. I DON'T. I hold those Sai students who make earnest attempts to follow Sai teachings, in high regard. I know some of them and cherish my association with them. But I also know Sai students who make only a show of following Sai teachings but do something else - hypocrites. And then there are others who frankly are into the material world full time, having a good time and do not associate with Sathya Sai movement at all - I don't blame them; their life their choice.

Where did the Muddenahalli group betrayal originate sir? It originated in the Sai university and Sai alumni group including Sai alumni-staff serving in the Sai university. Madhusudan Rao Naidu is a Sai student!!!!

How many of the top leaders of Muddenahalli group are Sai students (alumni)???

Don't be naive, Ganti sir. Don't be misled that all Sai students are great heroes of Sathyam Vada Dharmam Chara ideal. I was a (Lab. course) teacher in the Sai university for around nine years. I know what is what.

Like in the outside world and in the Sai devotee fraternity, there are good Sai students and there are not-so-good Sai students. I think your promoting all Sai students as saviours now is not correct.

I have PERSONALLY SEEN horrific levels of infighting between Sai students. And don't forget that the 1993 incident involved Sai students killing Sai student-servitors of Swami.

So please do not project all or most Sai students as some great saviours to solve this Muddenahalli problem. Some of them caused it in the first place!!! And most of the others have chosen to KEEP SILENT or try to fire guns using shoulders of others including anonymous Facebook profile users. Beware of PERSONAL AGENDA of Sai students firing guns using your shoulder too. You may think they want to improve Prasanthi Nilayam system. Later you may realize they were more bothered about power and position for themselves or their close friends or relatives. Sorry if my words are harsh but that's the reality that I have experienced in Prasanthi Nilayam system.
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Ravi S. Iyer wrote:
I should also add that PERSONAL AGENDA of some Sai students who fire the gun at others using your shoulder or some other anonymous Facebook profile user's shoulder, may simply be for purposes of taking revenge on some persons. Vendetta issues are quite common in Prasanthi Nilayam system, very unfortunately.
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Vr Ganti wrote:
Same way, I have seen so many Sai Devotees in general keep listening to and follow the Sai Students. May be after May 2014, people started realizing. Any way, it is neither here or there. Let us not get to debating onthis. The point is SAI STUDENTS are regarded as some special class of human beings. There is no doubt on that I suppose.
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Vr Ganti wrote:
See what is happening now - we both end up writing comments and no one is serious. May be there are very busy with their mundane material life and they dont have any time for participating in this debate at all.
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Ravi S. Iyer wrote:
I don't view SAI STUDENTS as special class of human beings, AT ALL. Others may. I know what is what. To be honest, as a group, I find non Sai student Sai devotees to be better examples of people making attempts to follow Sathya, Dharma, Shanti & Prema. I am VERY VERY SUSPICIOUS of most Sai students claiming to be Sathya, Dharma, Shanti, Prema heroes as I find that many turn out to be just HYPOCRITES who are more interested in leading good material lives and want money, power and position. But there are a few, I repeat a few, who seem to be genuinely inspired by Swami's ideals of Sathya, Dharma, Shanti and Prema. But they are not a big number at all.
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Vr Ganti wrote:
Yeah lah, what you say or what you feel many not be the feelings of many Sai Devotees, right or wrong
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Ravi S. Iyer wrote:
Well, you are trying to bring changes through your writings. I wanted to share my view of the situation. Don't forget that I have been living in Puttaparthi since Oct. 2002. So I know a lot about Puttaparthi and Sai students.
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Ravi S. Iyer wrote:
When I write in general support of SSSCT trustees, I do that because of this exposure that I have. Don't be under the impression that two or three Sai students becoming (SSSCT) trustees will create dramatic changes for the good in Prasanthi Nilayam system. Your suggested cure may turn out to be worse than the problem!
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Ravi S. Iyer wrote:
Besides, trustees have to be honorary (free service) people, haven't they? Most of the Sai students in Prasanthi Nilayam are salaried persons who very much need their salaries to manage their material needs. Have you thought about that aspect? Then, their exposure to the outside world is typically very limited. Trustee position people need exposure to the outside world for handling the challenges that they have to face.
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Given below are some comments from my Facebook post, https://www.facebook.com/ravi.s.iyer.7/posts/1820931954790040, associated with this blog post.

--Name-snipped-- commented:
Dear Sir, Sairam, I disagree to some extent with your views. I have seen many students asking Swami to be with Him. These students are top rankers in GATE and other exams. I as a student respect them though I am not equal to them. Jaisa raja vaisa praja....in the same way, if students are not given proper training or if they are trained by wrong ppl, then problems come. Madhusudan is just a puppet if BNM is not there. I blame BNM first.
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Ravi S. Iyer wrote (slightly edited):
Thanks for your dissenting view --name-snipped--. I encourage other Sai students to share their dissenting views on this post of mine. Perhaps I have a jaundiced view of some matters in Prasanthi Nilayam due to the very, very bitter experiences that I have faced in Sai university after Mahasamadhi. Prof. Anilkumar Kamaraju is also very, very bitter about his ill-treatment by Sai university administrators after Mahasamadhi. ... Our bitterness may have warped our view. I think it will be wonderful if you and other Sai students also give suggestions on how to counter Muddenahalli group influence in Prasanthi Nilayam system. Jai Sairam!
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--Name-snipped-- wrote:
Sairam Sir, I completely agree with you. If administration doesn't bother much, then how Swami's students and elderly devotees can do? After Mahasamadhi at least Prof. Anil Kumar should be given a chance to share his experiences everyday. I personally know people telling me that when they see him, they feel like seeing Swami. I can understand those feelings. Bcz he is the only person who translated every speech of Swami except on a few occasions. Its sad to know that he is illtreated. Perhaps this is the reason why MDH group is progressing. BNM sir knows proper man-management. When Dwapara age came to an end, Lord Krishna left his body and Arjuna could not fight robbers when they were openly looting. I think it is an indication Swami is giving.
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Ravi S. Iyer wrote (slightly edited):
Sairam brother --name-snipped--! I am happy to see your words of support for Prof. Anilkumar Kamaraju (AK sir). You mention that administration should treat him well. Do you know who were the Sai university administrators who forced Prof. Anilkumar Kamaraju to resign from the Sai university in 2011-12 after Mahasamadhi? Sashidhara Prasad the then vice-chancellor sent him a show-cause notice, through the Registrar, Naren Ramji, on some minor matter of AK sir going abroad without taking permission from Sai university administration. [I was informed by a very reliable source that multiple show-cause letters on this matter were sent by Registrar Naren Ramji to AK sir and that AK sir gave fitting replies to it. It is the norm in the Sai university that the vice-chancellor directs the Registrar to send these letters. So I suspect that Sashidhara Prasad would have been involved in these show-cause letters to AK sir even if the letters were sent by and in the name of the Registrar, Naren Ramji.] If Bhagavan was in his physical form then, Sashidhara Prasad and Naren Ramji may have found show-cause notices being issued to them by SSSCT secretary!!!

Later Sudhir Bhaskar, then Director Prasanthi Nilayam campus, went to Prof. Anilkumar Kamaraju's house and told him that he should resign from Sai university otherwise he (AK sir) will be terminated by Sai university administrators. AK sir fell into Asathya-Adharma crook and quisling Sudhir Bhaskar's trap and gave him a resignation letter. Within a week, Naren Ramji (student-staff), then and now Registrar, sent AK sir a letter that his resignation had been accepted! Sashidhara Prasad did nothing to prevent it. That's it. AK sir was thrown out of the Sai university in a relatively short period of time (in 2012, I believe) after Mahasamadhi!!! If Bhagavan was in his physical form then, SSSCT secretary would have forced Sudhir Bhaskar to write his resignation letter from the Sai university!!!

AK sir wrote about this ill-treatment to many Sai university staff, many of whom were Sai students. NOBODY did anything to support AK sir.

Naren Ramji is a student-staff. He has humiliated his own teachers (Anilkumar Kamaraju sir, Prof. Krupanidhi and others). He has committed a CRIMINAL OFFENCE UNDER THE INDIAN PENAL CODE of malicious record tampering against me. He is UTTERLY UNFIT to be Registrar of a Sathyam Vada Dharmam Chara and Love All Serve All Sai university.

Where was the gratitude and Sathya, Dharma, Shanti and Prema values of all Sai student-staff in the Sai university when AK sir was thrown out of the Sai university? In my view, it was UTTER FAILURE and HORRIFIC INGRATITUDE (INGRATITUDE IS A SIN) from Sai university student-staff to have done nothing when AK sir was thrown out of Sai university. They behaved like Bhismacharya and Dronacharya and others behaved as silent watchers of Adharmic humiliation of Draupadi in the court of the Kauravas.

I am sorry if my words are hurtful. But that is my view of the matter based on what I have heard about AK sir's removal from the Sai university from many reliable sources including AK sir himself, and my own horrific experience of Teacher-Drohi Paapis Sashidhara Prasad, Naren Ramji, Chandrasekaran and Sudhir Bhaskar.
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Ravi S. Iyer wrote:
Vr Ganti sir, Please do not make any comments about adding/changing trustees to Sri Sathya Sai Central Trust on my post. Thanks.
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Clive Raj Valydon wrote (slightly edited):
What a mess lol
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Reading all these comments.
I had no idea anil was treated like this.
Really have no idea what to say.
I'm so tired of a this politics.
Really don't see much improve my in the near future to be honest.
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It's just one big mess.
Everyone hungry for money and power now
Nobody wants swami any more
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For my own sanity I think im gonna stay away from all this politics.
I can't change anything and neither can anyone of us.
Sadly I doubt even swami can change things also.
So sad
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Ravi S. Iyer wrote:
Noted your comments, Clive Raj Valydon. Thanks.
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--Name-snipped-- wrote:
Sairam @Ravi S. Iyer sir, I completely agree with you and understand the situation. If our own people did it and they are in position now, then how truth can win. I think seeds were planted when Swamy was in His physical form. That time Swami took care. Now the way things run here and MDH both are causing pain to all. May be, Swami wants people to come out of past and realize His mysterious ways, and serve without any tags.
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Ravi S. Iyer wrote (slightly edited):
Thanks for your comment, brother --name-snipped--. Jai Sairam!
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Terry Reis Kennedy wrote over email (and was OK with public sharing):
Such despairing thoughts so early in the morning.  I am saddened that people are just giving up and turning away without investing their lives in Swami's mission.  This is exactly what the Dark Forces want!  Fight to the finish......?

Thanks for posting, Ravi.
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Given below are some extracts and few comments from Facebook post of Saibliss,
https://www.facebook.com/saimemories/videos/1238406102872627/, dated Nov. 22nd 2016

It is high time Sai university students get into serious introspection as what way he/she is contributing to His legacy. Sparing a handful, others have let down Swami very badly. When some have started imitating Him, some are fooling devotees by starting small ashrams, wearing ochre robes and flashing a beard giving satsangs (of course it's all His literature).

Some are comfortably sitting idle enjoying the "show" and some say "none of my business", "I got a busy job and family obligations" and so on.

Swami has called His students as His property and if every student who received free education spends at least 20% of the life in His mission every Sai centre across the world will transform into Prasanthi Nilayam.

It is high time devotees stop IDOLISING Sai students and eventually feed their egos by making them feel they are "super humans".

Let this 91st birthday remind us to re-dedicate to His mission and every devotee should take the responsibility of taking the message of Sai to the society.

Swami's blessings will always be there with us...
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Given below are a few comments from abovementioned Facebook post:
Terry Reis Kennedy wrote on Nov. 22nd 2016:
I agree. They should not be idolized. Some of them are sadly selfish, greedy, and worse....
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Ravi S. Iyer wrote on Nov. 26th 2016:
Saibliss writes, 'It is high time devotees stop IDOLISING Sai students and eventually feed their egos by making them feel they are "super humans".'

Ravi: I agree. Sai education system alumni (referred to as Sai students within Sai fraternity) should demonstrate by their actions and life that they are Sai students, and not simply claim the mantle of Sai student, talk about big ideals but behave in a way that does not fit their talk. They should walk their talk. Cheppinattu Chestara is a question that they need to address to themselves and answer honestly.

I know of many Sai students who have simply disassociated with Sathya Sai movement and have focused on regular material life (money, power, position etc.). To be honest, I don't blame them. Their life, their choice. I mean, I don't think it is fair to put emotional pressure on those Sai alumni who prefer not to get involved with Sathya Sai movement. Perhaps they prefer to do what they can in terms of Sai message, within their own family and friends circles.

But what bugs me are the HYPOCRITES among Sai students who talk about big ideals and teachings of Sai, but their actions show that they are more interested in leading a regular worldly life focused on money, power and position. Let such Sai students simply stop lecturing about Sai ideals and teachings (Ceiling on (material) desires is an important teaching of Sai, IMHO). I mean, hypocrisy, sometimes shameless hypocrisy, can lead to even psychological problems that may need mental health medical treatment, and is surely not conducive to spiritual development.

Now there are a few Sai students who are genuinely contributing to Sathya Sai mission, and can be held up as examples of ideal Sai education system alumni. I pray that Bhagavan Sri Sathya Sai Baba showers His Grace on them and their efforts to contribute to Bhagavan's mission.
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In response to my above words, a person wrote, "Instead of finding fault with students let us concentrate on our faults and correct them" and more on those lines. He also wrote, "Riches and positions are also his gift".

I (Ravi ) responded:
Thanks for your dissenting comment. I think your view is that one should not criticize. I disagree. I think it is the attitude of not criticizing people in power in Prasanthi Nilayam system after Mahasamadhi that led to this crisis situation where the Sathya Sai movement has been split worldwide. Do you know that PM Modi is expected to inaugurate Muddenahalli group hospital near Delhi today evening? I hope the PM does not share the stage with Madhusudan Rao Naidu, and give implicit encouragement and even endorsement to Muddenahalli group FALSE BELIEF.

My view is that it is my duty to my beloved Guru Bhagavan Sri Sathya Sai Baba and the Sathya Sai fraternity from whom I gained so much, to criticize the Sai university born Muddenahalli group FALSE BELIEF which is misguiding thousands of Sathya Sai devotees worldwide, using the name of Bhagavan Sri Sathya Sai Baba. The key person of Muddenahalli group, the so-called communicator, Madhusudan Rao Naidu, is an alumnus of Sai university and is BLATANTLY going against the teachings of Bhagavan as Bhagavan has publicly and unambiguously said that he never uses intermediaries/mediums to communicate with his devotees.

So I think we will have to agree to disagree on this point of not criticizing Sai students. Of course, such criticism should be fair criticism with evidence and rational arguments. It should not be malicious and false propaganda.

Of course, there are some Sai students who are doing good and great work. Further, I am not saying that being wealthy is bad or wrong. A lot of good works worldwide, including within Sathya Sai system, has been through the funds provided by wealthy donors. An enlightened view of wealth of individuals is that the wealth is a sacred trust that has been given by God to them which should be used for benefit of society.

I simply pointed out that 'ceiling on (material) desires', in my view, is a VITAL teaching of Sathya Sai. Jai Sairam!
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Friday, November 18, 2016

GVP sir's very sad association with Muddenahalli group

Given below is a comment exchange (inner-level comments to my comment, "Shubha Ramesh Kumar, Very well said! Excellent analysis! ...", dated Nov. 17th 2016, 11.11 PM) on Arun Srinivas' Facebook post, https://www.facebook.com/permalink.php?story_fbid=695701403921934&id=100004462429073, dated Nov. 16th 2016

Arun Srinivas wrote (slightly edited):
Ravi S. Iyer....I just forgot this persons name...He used to be behind swami during darshan.....shocked to know that he with MDH....what's his name sir ? His (Is) he the same person? [Attached pic: https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=696338630524878&set=p.696338630524878&type=3&theater]
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Ravi S. Iyer wrote:
Arun Srinivas, The gentleman whose pic you have put up, getting associated with Muddenahalli group, was, for me, the saddest event that happened due to Muddenahalli group FALSE BELIEF. He is Prof. G.V. Prabhakar Rao (GVP sir), formerly of the Dept. of Mathematics and Computer Science (DMACS), Sri Sathya Sai Institute of Higher Learning (Sai university). He and I used to sit in the same room in the Computer Lab. of DMACS, during the time he and I were both serving there.

And, yes, he used to walk behind Swami. Prior to Mahasamadhi, this person was a perfect gentleman, and very dedicated to Swami. I am grateful to him for having shared some interactions he had with Swami, with me. I also value the human values that he demonstrated then (he was a humble and polite person), quite in contrast to many others in Parthi who had proximity to physical form Swami, including form boys, who showed a lot of arrogance.

He is Ph.D. in Mathematics from IIT Madras, I believe. He later moved into the field of Computer Science and Information Technology. In Indian academia, it was, and perhaps still is to some extent at least, common for people with Ph.D.'s in Electrical Engineering, Electronics engineering, Mathematics etc. to become Computer Science & Information Technology academics, perhaps due to explosive growth of Computer Science & Information Technology academic depts. in India, and an acute shortage of Ph.D.'s in Computer Science & Information Technology fields in Indian academia.

So Prof. G.V. Prabhakar Rao (GVP) is an IIT PhD and an Indian Computer Science and Information Technology PROFESSOR! And he had close physical proximity to Swami for many years (after 1993 incident, for some years, when he was following Swami at Darshan), and served in Sai university! That would have made him a TOP-NOTCH person for Muddenahalli group to catch in their NET.

Additionally he was the Ph.D. guide for Madhusudan Rao Naidu's younger brother, Hanumantha Rao Naidu, in the Sai university. Hanumantha Rao Naidu, at that time (when he was doing Ph.D.), got into form with Swami, thereby getting GVP sir some precious renewed physical contact and interactions with Swami!

After Mahasamadhi, I don't know what happened to GVP sir! I think he, very unfortunately, came under the spell of the Asathya-Adharma force that is behind Madhusudan Rao Naidu, and he got trapped into it. GVP sir, for some time, even was having a blog promoting Muddenahalli FALSE BELIEF. Here is the July 20th 2014 post of his, http://reconnectsrisathyasai.blogspot.in/2014/07/preface.html, which shocked me no end! At that time, I even thought maybe it is true if GVP sir is endorsing it in such a strong and public way!

But as I examined it deeper then it became clear to me that GVP sir for all his Mathematics IIT PhD knowledge and physical proximity with Bhagavan, had been led spiritually astray by the Muddenahalli Asathya-Adharma force. It was very, very sad to see this, for me, very tragic, development.

Fortunately, later on he has not been so much at the fore in PUBLICLY promoting Muddenahalli FALSE BELIEF (I don't know about any private promotion he may be doing), even though I believe he is still associated with them, and perhaps does some Computer Science / Information Technology research and other work there, along with his former Ph.D. student, Dr. Hanumantha Rao Naidu (Madhusudan's younger brother). BTW Hanumantha (Hanu) was also my student - I have taught him software lab. courses - and Hanu later became a junior faculty colleague in DMACS. Hanu and I have even taught a course, C++ programming, together in DMACS, Sai university! Very fortunately for me, Hanu has never said anything publicly promoting Muddenahalli FALSE BELIEF. So I have not had to be publicly critical of anything related to Hanu, which would have been very painful for me to write. I wish Hanu all the best.

It has been painful for me to publicly share what I wrote about GVP sir above. But I felt it had to be done as my duty to Bhagavan Sri Sathya Sai Baba, my beloved Gurudev, and the Sathya Sai fraternity, and perhaps thereby save some innocent Sathya Sai devotees from getting trapped into Muddenhalli group FALSE BELIEF by seeing Prof. GVP associating with Muddenahalli group. I pray that Bhagavan will show GVP sir the path of Sathya & Dharma, and rescue him from the trap that he has fallen into. Jai Sairam!
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Vr Ganti commented in response:
More than year back I called him and when I said I am from SINGAPORE he was so happy to converse. When I told my name and that I vehemently oppose Lightbody concept he did not want to continue.
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Arun Srinivas wrote:
Ravi S. Iyer Vr Ganti....Sairam Sir....Thanks very much for giving such a clarity about this gentleman.I was very very curious to know about him as you said after 1993 incident he came into the picture and was very active...I have interacted with him in Prashanti many times....He used to accompany Swami during both darshan times...A person of such a stature that too Graduated from IIT and a Ph.D holder with so proximity to swami as how and where he got lost and got struck into this Muddenahalli Drama sir ? I remember I was then asked by late Sri.Radhakrishna who was Swami's personal caretaker to approach Mr.Prabhakar Rao for Distribution of Prasadam for Muddenahalli students in Shed No.2 which is no more there now...this particular shed was next to Sathya sai bhakt seva sahayak Sangh which is now the gas agency attached to Indian Gents Canteen......He was so good and helped all our students of Muddenhalli during Darshans.....Don't know as where all this will lead sir ? As you were right when they see such devotee or ex faculty who was close to swami and now with Muddenahalli....Anybody is bound to get trapped....Really appreciate you sir in giving such a clarity but what made him to leave SWAMI SIR ? Sairam
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Ravi S. Iyer wrote:
I will not say GVP sir has left Swami. My view is that he simply has got trapped into believing Muddenahalli group FALSE CLAIM. How that happened exactly? I don't know.
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Arun Srinivas wrote:
Ravi S. Iyer...Sir...Leaving Swami means Prashanti Nilayam.......leaving swami means ...GVP embracing a person with FALSE CLAIM leaving the DIVINE
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Ravi S. Iyer wrote:
Arun Srinivas, That's your view. I consider that to be too extreme a view. I prefer to view them as misguided devotees who have come under the spell of Asathya-Adharma force of Muddenahalli so-called communicator, Madhusudan Rao Naidu, even though they continue to pray to and worship Bhagavan Sri Sathya Sai Baba of Puttaparthi.
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Arun Srinivas wrote:
Ravi S. Iyer.....Yes I feel the word MISGUIDED is Apt. So some devotees too were commenting about Madhusudhan Naidu that he too was a MISGUIDED SOUL ....Do you agree with this comment sir ?
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Ravi S. Iyer wrote:
Brother Arun Srinivas. I find the case of Madhusudan Rao Naidu to be extraordinarily complex, based on what information I have gathered. He clearly is a very important LEADER now though people say Shri B.N. Narasimhamurthy is the KING who dictates matters (even to Madhusudan Rao Naidu) in private.

But it is Madhusudan Rao Naidu who has taken on the PUBLIC role of the spiritual-leader of Muddenahalli group. "Misguided soul", in my view, may be appropriate for people who get caught up as devotees of a fraudulent spiritual leader. Madhusudan is now a spiritual leader himself! He cannot, in my view, be viewed as simply a "misguided soul".

My view is that Madhusudan is a cult leader now. He also MUST have some paranormal powers - otherwise I don't think he could have attracted so many people. If he had used his own name for his darshan, interview and discourses, then he would have been doing something that would have been appropriate, in my view. In my view, there is nothing wrong in a Sai student becoming a spiritual leader and forming his/her own group, so long as he/she follows Sathya, Dharma, Shanti and Prema values and the teachings of Sathya Sai.

Where Madhusudan has committed a very bad act, in my view, is using the name of Bhagavan Sri Sathya Sai Baba, for his darshan, interview and discourses. Perhaps if he had used his own name, he may NOT have been able to attract other Sathya Sai devotees and their donation money, like he has now. Maybe that's why he fell into the trap of GOING AGAINST Bhagavan's teachings as Bhagavan has CLEARLY & PUBLICLY said that he never communicates via mediums (or communicators), by proclaiming himself (Madhusudan) as a so-called communicator of a so-called subtle body of Bhagavan. And that's where I think he has ended up misguiding thousands of Sathya Sai devotees, which perhaps is one of the gravest of sins that a spiritual person can commit.

To conclude, I don't think "misguided soul" is the appropriate term for Madhusudan Rao Naidu as he is the one who is doing the misguiding of other "misguided souls". It has to be a far more harsher term which I don't want to get into.
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[These comments are at the outer comment level in the same Facebook post.]

Vr Ganti wrote (slightly edited):
Arun Srinivas Ravi S. Iyer - I dont agree at all that Madhu is a spiritual leader. He is a fraud. I am in contact with someone, very senior guy (name withheld for the time being), who tells me lot of stories about Mhalli Gang and its leaders. Yes he has acquired some skills and these skills will not last for ever. As I said elsewhere, he is able to survive this long only becase Parthi camp is not united and the leaders are unable to combat the problem. I think this issue has been aggravated by inaction from SSSCT and nothing more than that.

I agree that Madhu appears to be an important member of the Mhalli Group, though I am told that he is just a puppet in the hands of CS and may be to some extent BNNM.
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Ravi S. Iyer wrote:
Vr Ganti sir. When I say Madhusudan Rao Naidu is a spiritual leader, I say it based on the sizeable international following that he now has. I have already publicly and repeatedly said that his so called communicator CLAIM is a FALSE CLAIM. So that part of his actions are FRAUDULENT.

For the other part of his actions - discussions and advise to devotees in interviews, money collection, starting new projects serving society for free etc. I think that is what many spiritual leaders do. What Madhu seems to do for fund collection certainly goes against the teachings of Sathya Sai to not solicit funds from donors. But that is not uncommon about most spiritual groups, I believe.

So I don't know whether this other part of his actions can be viewed as fraudulent. I mean, most spiritual leaders and groups do that.
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Ravi S. Iyer wrote:
Perhaps a comparison may make my stand clear. I view Kurnool Bala Sai Baba as a spiritual leader because he has a sizeable following. Barring Madhusudan Rao Naidu's so called communicator claim, which I have publicly said is a FALSE CLAIM, the rest of his actions seem to me to be somewhat comparable to Bala Sai Baba of Kurnool. Now I am NOT a follower of Bala Sai Baba but I cannot deny that others, a significant number, are his followers. And so I have to accept the reality that Bala Sai Baba is a spiritual leader to significant number of people.
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Thursday, November 17, 2016

Muddenahalli group splitting from Puttaparthi was due to a succession war, pure and simple

Last edited on 18th Nov. 2016

Given below are some comment exchanges in which I was involved in Facebook post, https://www.facebook.com/permalink.php?story_fbid=695701403921934&id=100004462429073.

Mr V.R. Ganti wrote (slightly edited):
See when some direct questions are raised, lot of people abstain from offering thier comments.. This is KALIYUGA, time when there is no place for TRUTH & DHARMA
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Shubha Ramesh Kumar responded (set of comments joined together):
Sir, Tell me about Mr. Voleti, so his ego is so fragile that the moment someone yells at him, he runs away to the opposite camp and aligns himself to a fraudster without no trouble and in no time? So that is RJR's fault and not the weak mindset of Mr. Voleti? Not the weak faith of Mr. Voleti?

Tell me about the spiritual strength of Mr BNNM, he asks to become trustee, these guys said no according to you, so he goes and makes plans big enough to destroy Swami itself, doing tactics to divert funds from PN and by raising and fostering a fraudster who claims he is Swami? Why make that the Trustees fault? Someone with stronger character, firmer faith would have dealt with the problem without damaging Swami's mission.

Same applies to Mr. Tigrett, he was all over the televisions after Mahasamadhi saying he had Baba's will, but no one gave him a ear and off he went to Mdh.

Same with CS. Swami threw him out for something, he got so enraged he quietly planned his exit and did the damage by coming up with his own plans?

Now tell me when we are dealing with bruised egos, that are doing everything in blind hatred to destroy their opponents without even realizing that they are destroying Swami's mission, is it not the job to stop them first?

[Shubha then tagged me (Ravi S. Iyer) and some others in a comment immediately after the above comments.]
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Ravi S. Iyer wrote (in response to above; slightly edited):
Shubha Ramesh Kumar, Very well said! Excellent analysis! It was a succession war, pure and simple. Those who could not get their way to top positions in Parthi, decided to break away and form another trust and run their own mission. And also wreak revenge on SSSCT trustees and some others who they felt had opposed them. But this revenge is wreaked via their supporters, so the top guys of Muddenahalli group can claim to be above such impulses. I think Narasimhamurthy and company's dream would have been to have SSSCT trustees come to them and plead with them!!! Horrific ego and power vendetta that one reads about in Mahabaharata but that is happening now in Sathya Sai mission. Fortunately, it is without any bloodshed so far. [Succession wars in other Indian ashram systems in the past few decades, after the bodily passing away of the founder, has seen bloodshed and even murder, if I recall correctly.]

It is just horrific levels of emotional attacks including private and vicious propaganda made by MDH promoters in the past against SSSCT trustees and some close servitors of Swami. In particular they targeted Shri R.J. Rathnakar and Satyajit Salian initially. After some time their targeting of Satyajit stopped, and they focused their attacks on Shri R.J. Rathnakar and painted him out in a very nasty and malicious way.

And, along the way, Narasimhamurthy and company, including top administrators of Prasanthi Nilayam institutions like ex vice-chancellor of Sai university Sashidhara Prasad (supported by some QUISLINGS in the Sai university) and ex Director of Super hospital, Puttaparthi, Dr. Voleti Chowdhary (though to lesser extent than Sashidhara Prasad), supported this FREAK-SHOW Madhusudan Rao Naidu's claim to be a communicator of Bhagavan Sri Sathya Sai Baba. These people perhaps do not realize that by going against the DIRECT TEACHINGS of Swami not to believe in such mediums and communicators, and misguiding thousands of Sathya Sai devotees across the globe, they have engaged in actions whose INESCAPABLE KARMIC CONSEQUENCES will surely not be good. I have no pleasure in writing the sentence I wrote earlier. It is with great sadness that I wrote it as I felt I had to express my spiritual view of this matter. Jai Sairam!
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Terry Reis Kennedy wrote:
Ravi S. Iyer This is brilliantly expressed. I would like to share the essay on my timeline. Please private message me with your response. Jai Sai Ram......
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I (Ravi) responded:
Please go ahead Terry Reis Kennedy. I was thinking of sharing it on my timeline too. Shubha Ramesh Kumar, may I share your messages to which I made the above response on blog and separate Facebook post?
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Shubha Ramesh Kumar responded:
Go ahead please..Ravi S. Iyer
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In response to comment about Muddenahalli group progressing much faster to dizzying heights as compared to Puttaparthi group, and to a comment about legal matters, I (Ravi) wrote:

I have no objections whatsoever to, and, in fact, I appreciate the service to humanity/society work that Muddenahalli group does. From a financial and NGO management perspective, it is a set of competitor Sathya Sai trusts to Sri Sathya Sai Central Trust, Puttaparthi. The startup competitor (MDH group) is making more waves than the established trust (SSSCT). OK. That happens. Let us not be jealous of MDH group for the good work that they are doing. And let us not be critical of SSSCT simply because the startup (MDH group) is doing new projects and perhaps is more in the limelight in certain parts of the country like North India (Raipur hospital in Chhattisgarh and the Delhi hospital, which I believe is to be inaugurated some time soon).

The only and very strong objection that I have with Muddenahalli group is that they are MISGUIDING thousands of Sathya Sai devotees by promoting and propagating the FALSE CLAIM that Madhusudan Rao Naidu is a so called communicator of a so called subtle body of Swami. Once they stop doing that, I think I will not have any objection/issues to what they do.

If former USA Secretary of State, Ms. Hillary Clinton, and former USA president Bill Clinton, are supportive of any efforts by Muddenahalli group towards establishing a free hospital in some part of the USA (Mississippi state), I think that is an excellent initiative from Muddenahalli group, and I wish them all the best for it. But, if Muddenahalli group tries to convince the Clintons that Madhusudan Rao Naidu is the so called communicator of so called subtle body of Sathya Sai, then we Sathya Sai devotees should make a co-ordinated and sustained effort to reach out to the Clintons in any way we can, and give them our view of the matter that Madhusudan Rao Naidu may have some paranormal powers but his communicator claim is a FALSE CLAIM.

Arun Srinivas, I do not know about lawyers who provided support to SSSCT. If there were other lawyers besides Shri S.S. Naganand doing SSSCT work when Swami was in phyiscal form, I think that is not such a big issue. Maybe Shri Naganand was not aware of such lawyers. In any case, I think that is a real minor point and not worth discussing about. It is not going to have any impact on the Muddenahalli group matter.

I prefer to stay away from legal case matters about individuals. I got interested in the SSSCT vs Loka Seva Trust case only because of the Muddenahalli group issue there.
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Ravi S. Iyer wrote:
Clive Raj Valydon, I think PM Modi and CM Raman Singh were (& perhaps are) supportive of the free hospitals work of Shri C.S. Srinivas of Muddenahalli group because of the free service to humanity work. Neither Modi nor Raman Singh, as far as I know, have publicly acknowledged or supported the FALSE CLAIM of Madhusudan Rao Naidu. Perhaps, as you said, it is the same with the alleged support/interest the Clintons may have in the free hospital in the USA that some people of Muddenhalli group are talking about.
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Wednesday, November 16, 2016

Firing guns at Hindu marriages can turn out to be deadly! Religious groups flaunting guns is terrifying

Please note that this post is about a disturbing event in north west India yesterday, 15th Nov. 2016, in which one person died and a few people got injured. Please skip reading the rest of this post if you get disturbed by such posts.

This is FOR REAL!!! I have never participated in a Hindu (or other religion) engagement/marriage function in Mumbai or in South India where people fire guns. But I have read about reports of such engagement/marriage celebration in North India.

The video linked below makes it so real and so horrifying! You can see men and a Hindu-religious-order lady (a sadhvi) firing guns in celebration! One of the guns seem to have been fired in a horizontal position instead of vertical, resulting in a bullet killing one person and perhaps another/more bullet(s) injuring others.

The combination of religion & guns, especially when flaunted around in this pretty intimidating fashion, is so terrifying! I think the government should take steps to prevent such flaunting of guns by religious order heads and their supporters. [Religious order heads, in India (and, I guess, elsewhere too), being protected from attack by others by licensed gun-wielding security staff or guns wielded by the religious order head himself/herself (provided he/she is licensed to have & use a gun) is a different matter, IMHO. That gets into the area of justifiable self-protection and self-defense, IMHO.]

Note that all of the conversation in the video is in Hindi/Punjabi.
Karnal Sadhvi Deva Thakur Live Marriage DJ Firing 1 Mahila Ki Maut Or 3 Ghayal Must Watch & Share, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MjJLZMiVOkI, 10 min 22 secs, published Nov. 15th 2016

Here's a Times of India report on it, Sadhvi Deva Thakur's celebratory fire kills 1 in Haryana, http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city/chandigarh/Sadhvi-Deva-Thakurs-celebratory-fire-kills-1-in-Haryana/articleshow/55448501.cms, Nov. 16th 2016

Tuesday, November 15, 2016

Dr. Voleti Chowdhary, former Director of Super Hospital, Puttaparthi, is now OPENLY worshiping Muddenahalli so called subtle body!

Last updated on 16th Nov. 2016

Shri V.R. Ganti's Facebook post, https://www.facebook.com/notes/vr-ganti/dr-voleti-at-mhalli-doing-namaskar-to-madhu-crazy-indeed/10208013664004077, dated Nov. 14th 2016, shows a sidewise picture (youtube video screenshot) of a person confirmed by Shri V.R. Ganti to be Dr. Voleti Chowdhary, former director of Sri Sathya Sai Institute of Higher Medical Sciences, Prasanthigram (Super hospital, Puttaparthi), seated in front row for darshan of so called subtle body of Muddenahalli and doing Namaskar (folded palms gesture of respect) to the imagined so called subtle body next to Madhusudan Rao Naidu and Shri B.N. Narasimhamurthy. The associated youtube video, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WuyhUeifZrA, has the description, "Global Akhanda Bhajans, Day 02 : 13th November 2016".

The comment that I put on above post of Mr. V.R. Ganti, is given below (slightly edited for better formatting).

It is the top administrators of Prasanthi Nilayam institutions like Sashidhara Prasad, ex vice-chancellor of Sai university till Nov. 2014, and Dr. Voleti Chowdhary, ex director of Super hospital, Prasanthi Nilayam (till Nov. 2015, I guess), supporting Muddenahalli group that created the trauma, chaos and confusion in Prasanthi Nilayam. They should have been loyal to the Sri Sathya Sai Central Trust that had appointed them to those top posts. Instead their loyalty was to Muddenahalli group!!! I mean, they should have quit their posts in Sai university and Super hospital, when they developed belief in Muddenahalli group, as that was a CLEAR CONFLICT OF INTEREST with Sri Sathya Sai Central Trust, the mother trust that had appointed them!!!

They may rationalize it one way or the other. But I think they have done a GREAT DISSERVICE to the mission of Bhagavan Sri Sathya Sai Baba of Prasanthi Nilayam/Puttaparthi.

Thank you Vr Ganti sir for sharing this news. I was told about his association with Muddenahalli group earlier but there was no clear evidence of it. Now it is in the OPEN!!!

I think all current administrators of institutions governed by SSSCT should understand the damage done by these two persons so that they don't do the same thing. If they believe in Muddenahalli group then let them first resign from their posts in SSSCT managed institutions, and join Muddenahalli group happily.
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In the period November 2015 end to January 2016, Dr. Voleti Chowdhary (Director of Super hospital, Puttaparthi till Nov. end 2015, I believe), supported by some staff of Prasanthi Nilayam institutions, had created a big hue and cry targeting Shri R.J. Rathnakar, trustee of Sri Sathya Sai Central Trust, over alleged ill-treatment meted out to him (Dr. Chowdhary) by Shri R.J. Rathnakar. At that time, some persons had assiduously taken up Dr. Voleti Chowdhary's cause and been very critical of Shri R.J. Rathnakar in their public Facebook posts and emails, and created a lot of tension in social media and to some extent in Prasanthi Nilayam system, over the incident.

Readers who want to know more about that may want to view my post, My view about Dr. Voleti's letter about humiliation faced during Swami birthday celebrations, http://ravisiyer.blogspot.in/2016/01/my-view-about-dr-voletis-letter-about.html, dated Jan. 21st 2016 and last updated on 28th Feb. 2016.
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In response to a question directed to me, "Regarding MR. VOLETI with Muddenahalli Faction.....I want your analysis seriously as why a devotee who was in a such a position when serving in Prashanti Nilayam and a devotee for decades to together can easily become blind....what's the reason sir" on Facebook post related to this topic, https://www.facebook.com/permalink.php?story_fbid=694903540668387&id=100004462429073, dated Nov. 15th 2016, I made the following comment (slightly edited) :

--Name-snipped--, about analysis of why Dr. Voleti Chowdhary is now worshiping Madhusudan Rao Naidu and associated so called subtle body: I don't know for sure as I have never interacted with Chowdhary and neither has he written about his views (as far as I know). In general, I can say that power-craze and ambition to be viewed as a HERO seems to be the reasons for a lot of such incidents. Muddenahalli group gives them the space to become HEROES within their group, whereas Parthi system is established with many bosses who will not allow new people to easily come to the fore.

This is a normal issue with established setup versus startups.

You see, expertise in cardiac surgery (Chowdhary) or Physics (Sashidhara Prasad) does not necessarily translate into spiritual understanding and knowledge. I do think that their lack of spiritual understanding combined with power craze and ambition has led them to take such sad steps.

Now that's just my view and I could be wrong. I am not a fully enlightened spiritual master to have paranormal powers of spiritual insight about these treacherous actions of Sashidhara Prasad and Voleti Chowdhary.
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Terry Reis Kennedy responded over email to the above, as follows:
Bravo!  Thank you, Ravi.  This is of great interest and helpful to devotees trying to adjust to this perplexing situation.
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My response :
Thanks Terry. I thought it appropriate to share your comment on my blog, as a chronicle/record of these extraordinary and, as you said accurately, perplexing, times that we are going through now in the Sathya Sai movement.
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Friday, November 11, 2016

Theresa May prays at Hindu Temple in Bangalore in Indian attire (Sari); May's Diwali message praises Lord Rama

Here's a short video of British PM Theresa May visiting the Sri Someshwara Hindu temple in Bangalore dressed in a Sari, https://www.facebook.com/10downingstreet/videos/10154728384838453/, 35 secs, dated Nov. 8th 2016.

Given below are some screenshot pics from the above video










Here are some links having pics, much better than my screenshot pics above, of the visit:
1) Theresa May steps out in sari as she hails success of ‘Global Britain’ drive during India trade trip, https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/2139966/theresa-may-steps-out-in-sari-as-she-hails-success-of-global-britain-drive-during-india-trade-trip/

2) May hails success of 'global Britain' drive during India trade mission,
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/wires/pa/article-3915124/Theresa-May-meeting-business-leaders-Indias-IT-capital.html

3) Here's Theresa May Looking Gorgeous In A Saree,
http://www.huffingtonpost.in/2016/11/08/heres-theresa-may-looking-gorgeous-in-a-saree/

I also came across this Facebook video post of British PM Theresa May, https://www.facebook.com/TheresaMayOfficial/videos/1474364222580346/, dated Oct. 31st 2016 where she sends her Diwali wishes. I have transcribed that video below.

Theresa May: I am delighted to send my very best wishes to everyone celebrating Diwali, a festival which holds such significance for so many people. Indeed, right across the world, lights decorate the streets, flowers adorn homes, treats are served and presents exchanged - all marking the triumph of light over darkness.

But the festival of lights isn't just relevant for Hindus, Jains, Sikhs and Buddhists. It is relevant to all of us, those of all faiths and none. We can all learn from the example set by Lord Rama, whose return from exile is marked by these five holy days. That epic story teaches us about building strong families and communities, shunning wrongdoing and evil, and choosing the right path. It promotes the values of service, responsibility, unity and tolerance.

We need those values more than ever as we build a country that works for everyone - a country where no matter what your faith, your beliefs or your background, you can reach your full potential.

In Britain's Indian communities we can see the good that can be done when people's talents are unleashed. I think of all those running their own businesses, taking risks and working hard so that they can provide for their families and take on staff. I think of all those public servants whose hard work and dedication makes our hospitals, schools, police forces and armed forces what they are today. I think of the volunteers who give up their own time to look after elderly neighbours or help provide food for families who are less well off.

These people are the backbone of our communities. And I would be so proud to highlight the achievements of British Indians next month when I make my first official visit to India as Prime Minister at the invitation of Prime Minister Narendra Modi, celebrating the relations between our countries and our shared ambitions for the future.

As we start the Hindu new year, it is an occasion for people to reflect on the twelve months that have passed and look to the opportunities ahead. So as friends and families come together in reflection and celebration, let me wish you all a Shubh Deepawali and send my good wishes to Sikhs celebrating Bandi Chhor Diwas, too.
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Ravi: I think it is splendid of British PM Theresa May to share such wonderful wishes about Diwali and Lord Ram. It is also a wonderful gesture on her part to dress in a sari and pray at a Hindu temple in Bangalore. I am touched by both her gestures.

It is very heartening to see the Conservative Party Prime Minister of Britain so clearly express her support for respect and tolerance for followers of all religions including those who have no religion (provided they follow the law of the land as well).

I earnestly pray to Almighty God to shower His Grace on British PM Theresa May and her efforts to promote respect and tolerance for those of all faiths/religions and none, and to promote the values that many, if not all, of these religions have of "service, responsibility, unity and tolerance".

Update: Got some better pics of this event courtesy: https://www.facebook.com/permalink.php?story_fbid=694928280665913&id=100004462429073. Have provided them below.






[I thank British PM Theresa May and her staff and have presumed that they will not have any objections to me sharing the above screenshot pics from and transcript of their Facebook posts/videos on this post which is freely viewable by all, and does not have any financial profit motive whatsoever.]

Monday, November 7, 2016

Russian president Putin in 2001 on Christian Muslim harmony in Russia

Given below are content and some comments from my Facebook post, https://www.facebook.com/ravi.s.iyer.7/posts/1814751602074742.

Russian president Putin, in 2001, saying that Russia is a unique place as Christians and Muslims have lived in it in harmony for centuries. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=leW6GtMMEuo, around 2 mins.

He talks about his interaction with an Egyptian president in the Kremlin where the Egyptian president tells him that he knows about the (incidents depicted in the) Biblical pictures put up on the wall in the room where they were then, as all of that is in the Koran too!!

Ravi: I am glad to hear such messages from Russian president Putin.
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In response to a comment mentioning Chechen wars, I responded (slightly edited):
Thanks for your criticism --name-snipped--. I am spreading the message about religious tolerance and religious pluralism, whether that comes from President Obama of the USA, or President Putin of Russia or Prime Minister Modi of India.
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I (Ravi) commented in response to continued comment on Chechnya:
Over the past few years, as I have got into playing this role of social media writer on spirituality & religion, promoting religious tolerance and religious pluralism which I think fits in very well with Swami's teachings, I have realized that I need to be publicly neutral on most political and regional conflict matters.

So whether it is Chechnya or Israel-Palestine or Kashmir in India, I try to steer clear from commenting publicly on these matters.

Instead I try to promote and support the initiatives related to religious tolerance and religious pluralism, without getting involved in political and regional conflict issues.

You are in Israel now, I believe. I have PRIVATELY read & viewed fair amount of material giving Israel's view of the Israel-Palestine conflict, as well as the Arab view of it (and that of Iran, now perhaps the biggest enemy of Israel). It is a nightmarish scenario NOW (and not a past situation like that of Chechnya or Britain-Ireland).

Rather than getting involved in arguments over Israeli-Arab (and Iran) conflict and enmity, what I do now is that if I see a religious tolerance message which I like from Israel or from Arab nations (and Iran), I spread it.

Perhaps you cannot accept messages of religious tolerance from political leaders who you view as hypocrites. That's fine with me. I mean, that is your choice.

But my view is that political leaders of powerful nations wield enormous power. So a Russian president saying words related to harmony between Islam and Christianity must be appreciated, especially in today's context where some political leaders of at least one powerful and majority Christian country are openly critical of Islam, which leads to a culture of intolerance of Islam in that country.

You may disagree with my view about not getting involved with political and regional conflict background of political leaders whose quotes on religious tolerance that I share. That's fine brother. We can politely agree to disagree on this point.
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Sunday, November 6, 2016

As of now, I am against any request/move to have govt. take over SSSCT

Given below are two comments I made in my Facebook post, https://www.facebook.com/ravi.s.iyer.7/posts/1813871192162783, which I felt appropriate to put up as a separate post.

Mr Vr Ganti writes (addressed to Alok Dara Shikoh but readable by others too), "Did you read my note about Satish Naik Garu, sort of terrorizing me by reaching out to my family and wants to create a rift in my family. Poor chap does not know that my family members will not ask me to stop what I am doing because they said that I can do whatever I feel is OK and if it keeps me happy."

I would like to say to all readers that Satish Naik is a good friend of mine who has been very helpful to me in understanding the Muddenahalli saga of so called communicator and the activities of Muddenhalli group. I value his friendship and will be loyal/biased towards him.

Having said that, I would like to share with readers that I checked with him about the messages he sent to Mr. Ganti's family and what his motives were for that. He told me that there was absolutely NO MOTIVE of threatening Mr. Ganti at all. Satish said that he wanted to alert Mr. Ganti's family members about Mr. Ganti's rather extreme posts against trustees of Sri Sathya Sai Central Trust and the harm it was causing to Prasanthi Nilayam image (in social media, at least). Satish hoped that Mr. Ganti's family members would be able to speak to him and convince him to stop writing and circulating such extreme posts against SSSCT trustees.

Satish took the utmost care, I was told by him, to use very polite language. He referred to Mr. Ganti's daughter-in-law as Akka (elder sister). She does not seem to have taken objection to Satish's messages and has responded politely to Satish, which Satish kindly shared with me.

But Mr. Ganti has twisted these words into a threat and alleged that Shri R.J. Rathnakar is behind these imagined threats to him!!! From my interactions with Satish, including one that I had a little while back today, I have been assured that not only was there no threat intended in these polite messages sent to Mr. Ganti's family by Satish, but that Shri R.J. Rathnakar was not involved at all in these messages being sent.

Now Mr. Ganti may not believe me and have the view that I now am only a mouthpiece of Satish Naik and perhaps of Shri R.J. Rathnakar too. That is his right and I cannot do anything about him holding such a view. But readers will know that I try very hard to say the truth as I see it (or as far as I know). If some matters are sensitive I may choose to stay silent but I do not say (or try very hard not to say) falsehood knowingly. I may sometimes have been given wrong/false information which I share without knowing that it is false - that is different from knowingly saying false things, which I don't do (or try very hard not to).

Mr. Ganti is of the view that if Andhra Pradesh government takes over SSSCT it will be wonderful and so has even quoted some Writ Petition dated 2013 made in Andhra Pradesh High Court on those lines, in a recent Facebook post of his. In my view, Andhra Pradesh government taking over SSSCT will strongly politicize SSSCT and the Sathya Sai movement. Then Prasanthi Nilayam and Sathya Sai movement key decisions will be influenced by the political party/coalition that is in power in Andhra Pradesh at a given time! I think that would be a significant problem for Prasanthi Nilayam and associated institutions, and the Sathya Sai movement, and so I am against any such efforts (govt. taking over SSSCT).

Of course, if SSSCT is taken over by the government, as government (and courts) are supreme, I and everybody else, including trustees of SSSCT will have to accept that. But I consider it my duty to Kali Yuga Avatar, Shiva-Shakti Swarupa, Bhagavan Sri Sathya Sai Baba, my beloved Gurudev, to PUBLICLY express my view that, as of now, I am NOT IN FAVOUR OF (I am against) any move to have government take over SSSCT.
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I am supportive of the current trustees of Sri Sathya Sai Central Trust including Shri R.J. Rathnakar and Shri K. Chakravarthi because I am aware of the very difficult situation that Prasanthi Nilayam went through first with losing physical form of Swami at Mahasamadhi time and then with the breakaway Muddenahalli group which included the seniormost and veteran top office bearer of Sai orgn., Shri Indulal Shah sir, a very respected and long term servitor and warden of Sai university, Shri B.N. Narasimhamurthy, and the then vice-chancellor of the Sai university, Prof. Sashidhara Prasad.

While I am of the view that SSSCT should have acted faster against Muddenahalli group, and that Prof. Sashidhara Prasad should NOT have been allowed to continue as vice-chancellor of Sai university once it became known that he was openly siding with Narasimhamurthy and not giving value to SSSCT view on Narasimhamurthy's dream instructions, I also realize that it would have been very traumatic for the SSSCT trustees to deal with all the horrible problems that Prasanthi Nilayam was facing then.

Overall, SSSCT has done a great job in keeping all institutions of Prasanthi Nilayam - ashram, hospitals, schools and university - running. That is no mean feat - only those who have lived through the trauma and chaos of post-Mahasamadhi 2011 and 2012 in Prasanthi Nilayam/Puttaparthi will really understand how big an achievement that was. I mean, people were leaving the institutions left, right and centre!!! How do you run hospitals and schools and university campuses when faced with a lot of people leaving, for one reason or the other, despite giving people good salary hikes via sixth pay commission implementation!!! Post-Mahasamadhi 2011 and 2012 was a very, very challenging period for Prasanthi Nilayam and outside ashram Puttaparthi town. I know as I have lived through it.

After Nov. 2014 when Sashidhara Prasad stepped down as vice-chancellor, the Sai university came out of the influence of Muddenahalli group. That was, in my considered view, one of the biggest, if not the biggest, turning-the-tide against Muddenahalli event in Prasanthi Nilayam. The trust has also become more strict by taking appropriate action against employees of the trust and associated institutions who are associating with Muddenahalli group.

I am publicly supportive of SSSCT due to these reasons and not just because I live in Puttaparthi. Yes, as I live in Puttaparthi and benefit from SSSCT institutions indirectly, it will be foolish and perhaps ungrateful of me to be openly critical of SSSCT if I think that SSSCT trustees are not handling matters appropriately. But then I would choose to remain silent. I would not say untruthful things as that will harm me in my spiritual path.

My public support for SSSCT is not FAKE, even if Mr. Vr Ganti suggests that when he writes, "I also know that since you [referring to me, Ravi S. Iyer] are staying in Parthi you dont have an alternative but to go with the stream and do what is best for you." Mr. Ganti is free to have that opinion. But I would like readers to know that I don't agree with Mr. Ganti and that my positive opinion of SSSCT, and support for SSSCT, is truthful and genuine. Others may have a different opinion - that's fine, they are entitled to their view.

Friday, November 4, 2016

Sai university culture of blindly following instructions from senior administrators led to Muddenahalli group HIJACK of Sai university from Jul 2011 to Nov 2014

Last updated on 6th Nov. 2016
Given below is my comment, in a Facebook post, https://www.facebook.com/terry.reiskennedy/posts/10211148027715361 (slightly edited).

[This comment is a nested comment within my top-level comment, "Vr Ganti sir - As I have mentioned in the past, I am a supporter of SSSCT and Prasanthi Nilayam. So I feel it is best that I do not comment on the latest video you have put up.", and is in response to other comments at the nested level.]

Sairam brother --name-snipped--, One point where I have perhaps consciously diverged in my public posts in 2015 and 2016 from Swami's teachings as you have shared above, is "Eschew criticism of others." I would like to mention another teaching in this regard which is put up (or at least was put up) as a poster on the road leading to Prasanthi Nilayam ashram, "Bear all and do nothing."

I realized that it was lack of criticism and oversight of people in power in the Sai university (Sri Sathya Sai Institute of Higher Learning) that, after Mahasamadhi, led them to go astray and have belief in Narasimhamurthy's claims that he is getting dream instructions from Swami, and also get into some sad abuse of power. Those who resisted such belief like Prof. Anilkumar Kamaraju were forced to resign from the Sai university! Prof. Kamaraju wrote to many of his peers and juniors in the Sai university about it, but nobody really supported him!!! In my own particular case, I was shouted at by the then vice-chancellor, Prof. Sashidhara Prasad in Jul/Aug 2011 that as I was a visiting faculty I should listen to whatever the HOD says, and he also advised me to sing bhajans!!! This was because the HOD, Chandrasekaran, was DEAD AGAINST the Sri Sathya Sai Vidya Vahini work that students and I were doing very successfully, and the HOD committed a terrible breach of academic procedure in Jul/Aug 2011 by overriding written permission given by the Registrar, Naren Ramji (who surely would have been instructed to do so by the vice-chancellor) to me to interact with Mandir Sri Sathya Sai Vidya Vahini (SSSVV) team led by Satyajit Salian, and the company involved in SSSVV software, Tata Consultancy Services. Neither the vice-chancellor nor the Registrar supported me in this matter and did not point out to me that the HOD had committed a breach of academic procedure. It was another senior academic in the Sai university with far more years of service as well as proximity to physical form of Bhagavan than these persons, who pointed out to me that it was an invalid instruction from the HOD, and that it has to come from the Registrar again.

As I was under the influence of teachings like 'Bear all and do nothing' and that one should (blindly) follow instructions of top administrators of the Sai university like the then vice-chancellor, Sashidhara Prasad, I saw that the only Sathya & Dharma path left to me was to quit my FREE SERVICE in the Sai university, which I did in March 2012 after I finished my consultancy work for a student's M.Tech. project work. Individually it worked out for me as I was able to focus on my spiritual path outside the Sai university, and I was very happy to get out of the Sai university even though I had prayed to Bhagavan for that free service (Seva) opportunity in end 2002, which he graciously accepted giving me that opportunity from Jan. 2003 onwards. In my heart, I was able to tell Bhagavan that the situation in post-Mahasamadhi Sai university had become impossible for me and so I had to quit my free service there. So my conscience was and continues to be free and at rest, in regard to me quitting the Sai university Seva that Swami had himself given me in response to my prayer to Him (including a letter about it which he accepted from me at Darshan time in end 2002).

But did this culture of not questioning actions of bosses help the Sai university or hurt it, in the immediate months and years after Mahasamadhi? Today, my view is that it hurt it enormously as essentially Sashidhara Prasad and Narasimharmurthy were able to HIJACK the Sai university from Jul 2011 to Nov. 2014, with the support of some quislings in the Sai university who were rewarded with suitable positions of power (and good sixth pay commission salaries as well, in most cases). People were afraid of criticizing the actions of the bosses.

And then if you get a wider perspective of Swami's teachings, Swami has also said that if there is Asathya and Adharma one should criticize it. Especially teachers and parents must criticize Asathya and Adharma in their students and children respectively. As if they do not do so, the students and children will think that the Asathya and Adharma they are doing, is fine, and continue with that behaviour pattern in their adult lives!!

In particular, Swami has publicly asked Sai devotees to strongly criticize those who claim to be mediums of Sathya Sai!!!

Narasimhamurthy claimed to be a dream medium of Sathya Sai in Jul 2011, and a document related to it was circulated in Prasanthi Nilayam campus teachers group of the Sai university (I was a part of that group and received it then). Why was that not criticized in the teachers group of Prasanthi Nilayam campus then as going against Swami's teachings?? If a debate had been conducted within Prasanthi Nilayam teachers group then itself (in Jul 2011), then perhaps the Sai university would have been successful in opposing the HIJACK of the Sai university by vice-chancellor Sashidhara Prasad and warden Narasimhamurthy.

It is my considered view that the Sai university culture of blindly obeying instructions from bosses like top university and hostel administrators (vice-chancellor, warden, registrar, controller of examinations and campus directors/principals) prevented a free debate on Narasimhamurthy's dream-instructions claim. Even when Madhusudan Rao Naidu went public in May 2014 with his communicator claim, I did not hear of anybody in the Sai university having the GUTS to oppose the claim even within the Sai university circles, as the vice-chancellor was supportive of Madhusudan Rao Naidu!!!!

Mr. Vr Ganti has made a tremendous contribution to the Sathya Sai movement by exposing in 2015 & 2016, the Sai university HIJACK and the false claims and history of Muddenahalli group. I am very grateful to him for that signal contribution from him to the Sathya Sai movement.

However, I do not approve of his means of bringing change in the Sathya Sai movement. I completely oppose his latest open letter to Andhra Pradesh CM.

In general, my view is that FAIR and BALANCED criticism is VITAL for any organization having a large group of people, as otherwise the danger of some leaders of the organization taking the entire organization astray is high. I mean, even leaders of such organizations are human, and may make mistakes. But the criticism should be FAIR and BALANCED. Wild accusations without supporting evidence must be eschewed.
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Given below are some comments from my Facebook post, https://www.facebook.com/ravi.s.iyer.7/posts/1813871192162783, associated with this blog post.

Terry Reis Kennedy wrote:
Brilliant, Ravi S. Iyer. Thank you for this helpful essay.
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Ravi S. Iyer wrote: Vr Ganti sir, as I am a supporter of SSSCT (which implies that I support the work that the current group of trustees are doing) I am afraid I have to delete your comment from this post of mine.
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Ravi S. Iyer wrote:
Vr Ganti sir, my view in response to your comment which I deleted, is as follows:

1) You have expressed your view about the approach Sri Sathya Sai Central Trust (SSSCT) has taken in combating the SERIOUS DIVISIVE problem that Muddenahalli group has created for the Sathya Sai movement worldwide. Your view does not necessarily have to be the correct and authentic view. You may have jumped to conclusions based on some suspicions you have about some people.

2) Regarding Swami's name being tarnished (by Muddenahalli group) and your dissatisfaction with SSSCT actions against Muddenahalli group: While SSSCT may have acted slowly, I disagree with your suspicions about a conspiracy where SSSCT actually supports Muddenahalli group. I don't think there is any evidence to support such a conspiracy theory. SSSCT has clearly stated that it does not agree with Muddenahalli group claims. I don't think any reasonable person can doubt that.

You seem to expect some dramatic action from SSSCT (taking the bull by the horns) against Muddenahalli group. I am glad that SSSCT has not got into any dramatic actions of that sort!!! Not only should SSSCT abide by Indian law but it should refrain from doing any dramatic stuff against Muddenahalli group, given its position as the mother trust having the great responsibility of managing and steering Puttaparthi based mission of our beloved Lord, Kali Yuga Avatar, Shiva-Shakti Swarupa, Bhagavan Sri Sathya Sai Baba.

As I understand it, Indian law does not prevent a group of Sathya Sai devotees to form separate trusts, and carry out service to humanity activities.

Where I, as a layman, think that there is a possible illegality (civil law illegality not criminal law illegality) under Indian law, is Madhusudan Rao Naidu using the name of Bhagavan Sri Sathya Sai Baba for his discourses, interviews and darshan. And my view which I have expressed in my public posts in 2015 itself, is that a legal challenge should be mounted on those grounds by either the kith & kin of Swami or by SSSCT who may be viewed by the Indian courts as heirs of Bhagavan Sri Sathya Sai Baba. However, that is just my view. As I am only a layman who has never ever stepped into any court of law, Indian or foreign, I could be wrong.

3) About other legal matters related to the trust, and appointment of trustees, I think there must be established procedures in law to address such issues. I personally do not want to get involved in such matters.

4) The personal and business activities of trustees of SSSCT are separate from the responsibilities they have taken on as SSSCT trustees. Why should we discuss such personal and business activities' matters of SSSCT trustees when we are discussing Sathya Sai mission matters? Further, Sai devotees should NOT BE JEALOUS of the wealth and power that any SSSCT trustee has. In fact, to manage the trust affairs well it perhaps is necessary to have some wealthy and powerful people on the trust! I mean, running the institutions associated with the trust and conducting various functions in Prasanthi Nilayam ashram, need a lot of money as well as administrative influence with government bodies.
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Ravi S. Iyer wrote (slightly edited) in response to a comment:
--name-snipped--, I agree that what is FAIR and BALANCED to me may not be FAIR and BALANCED to somebody else. I think these standards of FAIR and BALANCED in such posts & comments apply to a community of writers & readers. I like standards followed by international mainstream media like The New York Times, Washington Post, The Hindu, CNN and BBC, and view them, in general (with some exceptions), to be FAIR and BALANCED. But others view them to be UNFAIR and DISHONEST (including one major party nominee for USA president in the current USA elections).

In general, my view is that facts are established by evidence presented. Sometimes most participants in a conversation know about some things being facts and so there is no need to present evidence. And then there is opinion where one gives a view based on some facts presented. The view builds on the facts logically. Such an opinion/view to me is a FAIR and BALANCED opinion/view. Of course, others can criticize such an opinion/view by disputing the logic used to arrive at the conclusions or by even disputing the facts on which the opinion/view is based. The author then has to provide a suitable defense of the opinion/view, or may even correct it in the light of some genuine flaws that the criticism exposed.

In contrast, an UNFAIR and UNBALANCED view is one which seeks to promote only some facts, and suppress other facts, and/or uses faulty logic, including jumping to conspiracy conclusions, to arrive at an opinion/view.
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Ravi S. Iyer wrote (slightly edited) in response to comment "Do you really feel that SAI devotees might be JEALOUS of the wealth of SSSCT members ...Since you have that feeling....you have commented.":
--name-snipped--, Jealousy not only of wealth and power but even of fame as a speaker on spirituality or b'cos of Swami interacting with somebody, was quite COMMON, and perhaps is still now quite COMMON in Prasanthi Nilayam ashram and institutions. Bhagavan himself has said that behind the very unfortunate 1993 incident, the main cause was jealousy. I myself have been a victim of jealousy in Prasanthi Nilayam system. It is a POWERFUL NEGATIVE FORCE in Prasanthi Nilayam and outside ashram Puttaparthi town as well, which I have learned to be very careful about.
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Ravi S. Iyer wrote:
I am supportive of the current trustees of Sri Sathya Sai Central Trust including Shri R.J. Rathnakar and Shri K. Chakravarthi because I am aware of the very difficult situation that Prasanthi Nilayam went through first with losing physical form of Swami at Mahasamadhi time and then with the breakaway Muddenahalli group which included the seniormost and veteran top office bearer of Sai orgn., Shri Indulal Shah sir, a very respected and long term servitor and warden of Sai university, Shri B.N. Narasimhamurthy, and the then vice-chancellor of the Sai university, Prof. Sashidhara Prasad.

While I am of the view that SSSCT should have acted faster against Muddenahalli group, and that Prof. Sashidhara Prasad should NOT have been allowed to continue as vice-chancellor of Sai university once it became known that he was openly siding with Narasimhamurthy and not giving value to SSSCT view on Narasimhamurthy's dream instructions, I also realize that it would have been very traumatic for the SSSCT trustees to deal with all the horrible problems that Prasanthi Nilayam was facing then.

Overall, SSSCT has done a great job in keeping all institutions of Prasanthi Nilayam - ashram, hospitals, schools and university - running. That is no mean feat - only those who have lived through the trauma and chaos of post-Mahasamadhi 2011 and 2012 in Prasanthi Nilayam/Puttaparthi will really understand how big an achievement that was. I mean, people were leaving the institutions left, right and centre!!! How do you run hospitals and schools and university campuses when faced with a lot of people leaving, for one reason or the other, despite giving people good salary hikes via sixth pay commission implementation!!! Post-Mahasamadhi 2011 and 2012 was a very, very challenging period for Prasanthi Nilayam and outside ashram Puttaparthi town. I know as I have lived through it.

After Nov. 2014 when Sashidhara Prasad stepped down as vice-chancellor, the Sai university came out of the influence of Muddenahalli group. That was, in my considered view, one of the biggest, if not the biggest, turning-the-tide against Muddenahalli event in Prasanthi Nilayam. The trust has also become more strict by taking appropriate action against employees of the trust and associated institutions who are associating with Muddenahalli group.

I am publicly supportive of SSSCT due to these reasons and not just because I live in Puttaparthi. Yes, as I live in Puttaparthi and benefit from SSSCT institutions indirectly, it will be foolish and perhaps ungrateful of me to be openly critical of SSSCT. But then I would choose to remain silent. I would not say untruthful things as that will harm me in my spiritual path.

My public support for SSSCT is not FAKE, even if Mr. Vr Ganti suggests that when he writes, "I also know that since you [referring to me, Ravi S. Iyer] are staying in Parthi you dont have an alternative but to go with the stream and do what is best for you." Mr. Ganti is free to have that opinion. But I would like readers to know that I don't agree with Mr. Ganti and that my positive opinion of SSSCT, and support for SSSCT, is truthful and genuine. Others may have a different opinion - that's fine, they are entitled to their view.
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Ravi S. Iyer wrote:
Mr Vr Ganti writes (addressed to Alok Dara Shikoh but readable by others too), "Did you read my note about Satish Naik Garu, sort of terrorizing me by reaching out to my family and wants to create a rift in my family. Poor chap does not know that my family members will not ask me to stop what I am doing because they said that I can do whatever I feel is OK and if it keeps me happy."

I would like to say to all readers that Satish Naik is a good friend of mine who has been very helpful to me in understanding the Muddenahalli saga of so called communicator and the activities of Muddenhalli group. I value his friendship and will be loyal/biased towards him.

Having said that, I would like to share with readers that I checked with him about the messages he sent to Mr. Ganti's family and what his motives were for that. He told me that there was absolutely NO MOTIVE of threatening Mr. Ganti at all. Satish said that he wanted to alert Mr. Ganti's family members about Mr. Ganti's rather extreme posts against trustees of Sri Sathya Sai Central Trust and the harm it was causing to Prasanthi Nilayam image (in social media, at least). Satish hoped that Mr. Ganti's family members would be able to speak to him and convince him to stop writing and circulating such extreme posts against SSSCT trustees.

Satish took the utmost care, I was told by him, to use very polite language. He referred to Mr. Ganti's daughter-in-law as Akka (elder sister). She does not seem to have taken objection to Satish's messages and has responded politely to Satish, which Satish kindly shared with me.

But Mr. Ganti has twisted these words into a threat and alleged that Shri R.J. Rathnakar is behind these imagined threats to him!!! From my interactions with Satish, including one that I had a little while back today, I have been assured that not only was there no threat intended in these polite messages sent to Mr. Ganti's family by Satish, but that Shri R.J. Rathnakar was not involved at all in these messages being sent.

Now Mr. Ganti may not believe me and have the view that I now am only a mouthpiece of Satish Naik and perhaps of Shri R.J. Rathnakar too. That is his right and I cannot do anything about him holding such a view. But readers will know that I try very hard to say the truth as I see it (or as far as I know). If some matters are sensitive I may choose to stay silent but I do not say (or try very hard not to say) falsehood knowingly. I may sometimes have been given wrong/false information which I share without knowing that it is false - that is different from knowingly saying false things, which I don't do (or try very hard not to).

Mr. Ganti is of the view that if Andhra Pradesh government takes over SSSCT it will be wonderful and so has even quoted some Writ Petition dated 2013 made in Andhra Pradesh High Court on those lines, in a recent Facebook post of his. In my view, Andhra Pradesh government taking over SSSCT will strongly politicize SSSCT and the Sathya Sai movement. Then Prasanthi Nilayam and Sathya Sai movement key decisions will be influenced by the political party/coalition that is in power in Andhra Pradesh at a given time! I think that would be a significant problem for Prasanthi Nilayam and associated institutions, and the Sathya Sai movement, and so I am against any such efforts (govt. taking over SSSCT).

Of course, if SSSCT is taken over by the government, as government (and courts) are supreme, I and everybody else, including trustees of SSSCT will have to accept that. But I consider it my duty to Kali Yuga Avatar, Shiva-Shakti Swarupa, Bhagavan Sri Sathya Sai Baba, my beloved Gurudev, to PUBLICLY express my view that, as of now, I am NOT IN FAVOUR OF (I am against) any move to have government take over SSSCT.
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