Thursday, December 14, 2017

Indian Supreme Court ensures access to Parsi (Zoroastrian) temple(s) for Parsi lady married to a Hindu

Great initiative (SC put pressure on the Parsi trust which resulted in Parsi trust changing its earlier stand) and decision by the Indian Supreme Court to help a Parsi (Zoroastrian faith) lady married to a Hindu, get access to Parsi temple(s) in Gujarat, especially the Tower of Silence where Parsis do rituals for departed (deceased) relatives. Note that the lady is considered to be a non-Parsi even though she has not renounced her Parsi religion, by the Parsi religious authorities on account of her marrying a person from a different faith.

Parsi trust to Supreme Court: Will allow women marrying outside religion enter temples, http://indianexpress.com/article/india/parsi-trust-to-supreme-court-will-allow-women-marrying-outside-religion-to-enter-temples-4982382/, 14th Dec. 2017

Great Pakistani Qawwali singer Nusrat Fateh Ali Khan singing multi-faith song - Koi Bole Ram Ram Koi Khudaye

The great Pakistani qawwali singer, Late Nusrat Fateh Ali Khan sahab and party singing a variation of multi-faith song whose authorship is attributed to Guru Nanak (founder of Sikh religion): (only audio) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=66CdTLhMuwk, 13 min. 49 secs. The song is titled "Koi Bole Ram Ram Koi Khudaye" which means some say Ram Ram (Hindus who worship Rama) and some say Khuda (Muslims who worship Allah referred to as Khuda).

Here's a video of Nusrat Fateh Ali Khan sahab and party singing it live in a Gurudwara (Sikh place of worship) in 1989 (the video and audio quality is middling): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=88QkKR5WvIo, around 30 mins.

Here are the lyrics with English translation of the original song: http://forum.spiritualindia.org/sai-baba-videos-and-audios/koi-bole-ram-ram-koi-khudae-(with-lyrics-meaning)/. Note that Nusrat Fateh Ali Khan has added some words of his own in the renditions mentioned above.
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Young Sikh singers giving their soulful rendition of Guru Nanak's Koi Bole Ram Ram Koi Khudaye, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yr6Y3gzjAu4, around 12 mins. Video is mixed with nice pics of places and scenes of worship.
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Contemporary Indian Sufi singers singing Koi Bole Ram Ram Koi Khudaye, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mT_P3iYo3k8, around 9 mins.
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A young contemporary group of USA based (Texas state it seems) Qawwali singers of South Asian origin (India, Pakistan, Bangladesh and Afghanistan), singing Koi Bole Ram Ram Koi Khudaye, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CX2zwHjXgrI, around 10 mins.

Here's their about ensemble page on their website: http://www.riyaazqawwali.com/about-us/ . Going by the names of the ensemble, they are of different faiths - Hindu and Muslim and perhaps Sikh and Christian.

And here's their song in the background with pics and short video clips of our beloved Bhagavan Sri Sathya Sai Baba and Sai Kulwant Hall, Prasanthi Nilayam: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CGNPZfbn75o, around 10 mins.
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Wednesday, December 13, 2017

I support the wife of Maharashtra CM Devendra Fadnavis attending a Christmas Charity event and tweeting about it

I support the wife of Maharashtra CM (Chief Minister Devendra Fadnavis) attending a Christmas Charity event and tweeting about it. Being a Hindu does not mean that one should not attend charity and good faith events associated with other religions. I think early 21st century Hinduism in free and independent India should be secure and confident of itself, such that attending charity and good faith events of other religions does not lead to fear about Hinduism in India being threatened! In this early 21st century India, my faith in, and practice of, Hinduism is certainly very secure and I don't feel threatened in the least if I attend a faith event of another religion.

She had attended the event in Mumbai which is, by and large, a great example of a city with multi-faith appreciation (and not just tolerance) even though the majority is Hindu. I say this as a person born and bred in Mumbai and who spent most of his commercial work life of around two decades in Mumbai.

I hope Ms. Amruta Fadnavis does not hesitate to attend charity and good faith events of other religions in Mumbai and in Maharashtra in future.

Trolled for attending Christmas charity event, Amruta Fadnavis says it was a ‘good cause’, http://indianexpress.com/article/india/trolled-for-attending-christmas-charity-event-amruta-fadnavis-says-it-was-a-good-cause-4980359/, 13th Dec. 2017.

The article sub-title/lede states, 'Several users slammed her for promoting a charity linked to Christmas, while others accused her of “spreading Christianity”.'

I have unblocked Mr. V.R. Ganti on Facebook and sent him a Facebook message; Mr Ganti responded and so we are in Facebook contact again

Given below are the contents of two of my recent Facebook posts and some of my comments on them.

From my Facebook post, https://www.facebook.com/ravi.s.iyer.7/posts/2035692856647281, dated 13th Dec. 2017:

I have unblocked Mr. V.R. Ganti on Facebook and sent him a Facebook message

A few minutes ago I unblocked Mr. V.R. Ganti and sent him a Facebook message as follows:

Sairam V.R. Ganti sir,

As you continue to be somebody who has relentlessly been critical of Asathya-Adharma of Muddenhalli group, I have unblocked you on Facebook and, if you are willing to interact with me, I would like to continue interactions with you on Muddenahalli matters.

Of course, I will not interact with you on anything critical that you may say on Prasanthi Nilayam, Sri Sathya Sai Central Trust and its trustees. I am a supporter of Sri Sathya Sai Central Trust.

Regards

Ravi S. Iyer

I have also started 'Following' your Facebook posts. Thanks.

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I don't see a read indicator so far. I have also noted that Mr. Ganti has not posted on his Facebook pages for the past ten days or so. Perhaps for some reason he has been off Facebook over the past few days.

I felt it appropriate to include a slightly edited version of my comments in my previous Facebook post, https://www.facebook.com/ravi.s.iyer.7/posts/2034909926725574, here, as follows:

I have a clear recollection of the trauma, not just embarrassment, that I was put to early this year, by a Muddenahalli group Fake News Facebook Fake Id attacker who claims to be a Sai university alumnus, and seems to be based in Melbourne, Australia, who used misrepresentation and fabrication to paint a vicious negative picture of me vis-a-via an SSSCT trustee. It was Mr. Ganti who provided the Facebook pages platform with wide readership in Sathya Sai fraternity, to this Asathya-Adharma and vicious attack on me by the claimed Sai university alumnus who seems to be based in Melbourne, Australia. All my pleas and even forceful words to Mr. Ganti to understand the misrepresentation and fabrication failed to convince him to delete those offensive comments on his post. Perhaps it was an opportunity for Mr. Ganti to retaliate against some persons and so he could not let go of that opportunity. Very nasty stuff, indeed! That is why I decided to block Mr. Ganti then.

Today I am wiser about such matters and I think I am better prepared to deal with such vicious Shakuni-poison attacks against me on Facebook. Then (early this year) I was not prepared and so got wrapped up in the matter in a way that led to more publicity to the Fake News attack which created discomfort for some.

Now my approach will be to completely disengage from any conversation with Facebook Fake Id fellows on controversial and sensitive topics. I have also quite extensively followed the publicly shared analysis by leading USA investigative agencies as well as Facebook CEO Mark Zuckerberg, of the Fake News social media campaign (Facebook was used in a big way) that hit the 2016 USA presidential campaign, and am more knowledgeable now about the horrific and vicious ways Facebook Fake Id fellows spread their false and nasty news/attacks. The key learning for me is that whenever a social media conversation gets into sensitive and serious territory I should converse only with opposite-camp people who are not using Fake Ids (so are using ids traceable to real people) and so can be held accountable for what they say, within the Sathya Sai fraternity and also within the law of the country in which they live.

If I had completely ignored the Facebook fake Id attacker, who claims to be a Sai University alumnus and seems to be based in Melbourne, Australia, the whole thing may have blown over in a few days, without people paying much attention to it. That has been a key learning for me about such fake Id attacks on Facebook.

The reason why I am thinking of interacting with Mr. Ganti again ONLY ON exposing Muddenahalli group matters and on positive Sathya Sai messages that he may put up, is that I have been seriously disturbed by seeing two senior teachers of Sai educational systems (one from school and one from Sai university), in recent videos, worshiping Madhu Baba by reverentially doing Namaskar to him and, in one case, opening his folded palms to receive "blessed chocolates" from Madhu Baba in their 92nd birthday celebration. Please see attached pics. This is happening even though so much work has been done in 2015 and 2016 mainly to expose Muddenahalli group false claims! If senior faculty still fall for Madhu Baba then many alumni of Sai educational systems, and perhaps some other Sai devotees too, will continue to get trapped by false claim of Madhu Baba!

I would like to use Mr. Ganti's services, if he is willing, to provide publicity to this sad situation and warn Sathya Sai fraternity about such faculty. BTW I am both a former Sai organization man - around 9 years or so in 1990s and early 2000s in Dombivli samithi, Maharashtra with six Prasanthi Seva stints - and a former free service Sai educational systems teacher/faculty - from Jan. 2003 to March 2012 with designations of Honorary Staff/ Honorary Faculty/ Visiting Faculty. Given this background, it is my considered view that the Muddenahalli false belief problem was BORN and NURTURED in the Sai educational system fraternity of warden (Narasmihamurthy), vice-chancellor (Sashidhara Prasad), senior faculty (G.V. Prabhakar Rao, some Muddenahalli school senior teachers, and now Venkateswarulu and Gopi) and alumni (C.Srinivas, Madhusudan Rao Naidu himself, V. Kumar, VijaySai B.S. etc). The Sai organization in India has not been impacted so much, thankfully. We need to help non Sai student/alumni Sai devotees in India and around the world stay away from this false belief promoted by some Sai educational system fraternity! This is the very tragic and unfortunate reality that we face today in the Sathya Sai movement.

So I will go ahead and unblock Mr. Ganti and interact with him on opposing Muddenahalli group false claim, if he is willing to interact with me. I will stay completely away from anything he says regarding Prasanthi Nilayam and SSSCT. If I find that I am getting trapped again by fake Id Facebook attackers on Mr. Ganti's posts then I will stop interacting with Mr. Ganti and, if necessary, block him again.




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An update:
Mr. Ganti responded to my Facebook message to him with a Sairam. I responded by thanking him for his response. So I have re-established Facebook contact with Mr. Ganti.
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From my Facebook post, https://www.facebook.com/ravi.s.iyer.7/posts/2034909926725574, dated 12th Dec. 2017:

As Shri V.R. Ganti (of Singapore) continues to be somebody who has relentlessly been critical of Asathya-Adharma of Muddenhalli group, I was wondering whether I should unblock him on Facebook and, if he is willing to interact with me, continue interactions with him on Muddenahalli matters.

Of course, I will not interact with him on anything critical that he may say on Prasanthi Nilayam, Sri Sathya Sai Central Trust and its trustees. I am a supporter of Sri Sathya Sai Central Trust.

I am curious to know if others have some advice/views on this matter. Ap Ramesh sir, I would be glad to know your view. In particular, do you think it is too risky to interact with Mr. Ganti on Muddenahalli related matters, because Mr. Ganti, at times, goes off on a tangent and is critical of Sri Sathya Sai Central Trust. I will value your response. Thanks.
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[I thanked three persons who commented that I should unblock Mr. Ganti giving their reasons why I should do so.]

I (Ravi) commented:

Ap Ramesh sir, I am now favourably viewing the idea of unblocking Mr. V.R. Ganti, and interacting with him on continuing to expose Muddenahalli false claims and helping to prevent/reduce the number of people they trap with their false claim. And as I said in the post, I will not interact with Mr. V.R. Ganti on anything he says that is critical of Sri Sathya Sai Central Trust and its trustees as I am a supporter of Sri Sathya Sai Central Trust.

If you do have objections to my plan to unblock Mr. V.R. Ganti and interact with him as described above, please comment on this post sharing your views on the matter. Thanks and Jai Sairam!
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Ap Ramesh sir wrote:
sairam Iyer sir, How are you? i have not been active on FB for few months. i don't get to see Ganti's posts as i am blocked by him. but recently i got a message forward about some student spilling beans etc and Ganti going over board without knowing an iota of truth. it turned out that the student was under medication.The problem with ganti is that he is an attention seeker and enjoys sensationalising silly things. he has bruised ego due to " brush aside' kind of treatment that he got from some trustees. so he will keep on attacking the trustees and trust. he cannot be relied upon ever. he can be venomous to the extent that he even tried to corner Mr. Ajith Poppat recently. So he is a sort of Naga Sadhu who has nothing to be discreet about. he would like to see as many Naga Sadhus as possible around him. so he tries to remove the cloths of everyone. ( EXPOSE). STILL I FEEL YOU CAN GIVE HIM ONE LAST CHANCE. After all he was in frontlines in the muddenahalli battle. Iyer sir, i don't want you to be ever embarrassed because of him. ( you know what i am referring to) . please take care.
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[Note that some of the contents of my comments below are mentioned earlier in the contents of the first Facebook post whose contents are put up on this post. Readers would have to kindly tolerate that repetition.]
I (Ravi) wrote:

Ravi S. Iyer Sairam Ap Ramesh sir! Thank you so much for your very valuable opinion. I view you as my well-wisher and so value your advice very much.

I think I know what you are referring to about some student (alumnus who was staff) spilling beans which Mr. Ganti seems to have shown some encouragement to. I was informed of this matter by somebody else after which I followed up on the matter. I was shocked to the core to see the tone of the posts written by the former student-staff. My considered view is that in such very serious matters it is best to report what one knows to appropriate government law enforcement and investigative authorities and leave it to them. I think it is completely inappropriate and very harmful to Sathya Sai movement if that person tries to become a self-appointed investigator of such serious allegations. And I too was informed that the concerned person seems to have some psychological challenges.

You wrote the following at the conclusion of your message, "STILL I FEEL YOU CAN GIVE HIM ONE LAST CHANCE. After all he was in frontlines in the muddenahalli battle. Iyer sir, i don't want you to be ever embarrassed because of him. ( you know what i am referring to) . please take care."

I have a clear recollection of the trauma, not just embarrassment, that I was put to early this year, by a Muddenahalli group Fake News Facebook Fake Id attacker who claims to be a Sai university alumnus, and seems to be based in Melbourne, Australia, who used misrepresentation and fabrication to paint a vicious negative picture of me vis-a-via an SSSCT trustee. It was Mr. Ganti who provided the Facebook pages platform with wide readership in Sathya Sai fraternity, to this Asathya-Adharma and vicious attack on me by the claimed Sai university alumnus who seems to be based in Melbourne, Australia. All my pleas and even forceful words to Mr. Ganti to understand the misrepresentation and fabrication failed to convince him to delete those offensive comments on his post. Perhaps it was an opportunity for Mr. Ganti to retaliate against some persons and so he could not let go of that opportunity. Very nasty stuff, indeed! That is why I decided to block Mr. Ganti then.

Today I am wiser about such matters and I think I am better prepared to deal with such vicious Shakuni-poison attacks against me on Facebook. Then (early this year) I was not prepared and so got wrapped up in the matter in a way that led to more publicity to the Fake News attack which created discomfort for some.

Now my approach will be to completely disengage from any conversation with Facebook Fake Id fellows on controversial and sensitive topics. I have also quite extensively followed the publicly shared analysis by leading USA investigative agencies as well as Facebook CEO Mark Zuckerberg, of the Fake News social media campaign (Facebook was used in a big way) that hit the 2016 USA presidential campaign, and am more knowledgeable now about the horrific and vicious ways Facebook Fake Id fellows spread their false and nasty news/attacks. The key learning for me is that whenever a social media conversation gets into sensitive and serious territory I should converse only with opposite-camp people who are not using Fake Ids and so can be held accountable for what they say, within the Sathya Sai fraternity and also within the law of the land of the country in which they live.

If I had completely ignored the Facebook fake Id attacker, who claims to be a Sai University alumnus and seems to be based in Melbourne, Australia, the whole thing may have blown over in a few days, without people paying much attention to it. That has been a key learning for me about such fake Id attacks on Facebook.

The reason why I am thinking of interacting with Mr. Ganti again ONLY ON exposing Muddenahalli group matters and on positive Sathya Sai messages that he may put up, is that I have been seriously disturbed by seeing two senior teachers of Sai educational systems (one from school and one from Sai university), in recent videos, worshiping Madhu Baba by reverentially doing Namaskar to him and, in one case, opening his folded palms to receive "blessed chocolates" from Madhu Baba in their 92nd birthday celebration. Please see attached pics. This is happening even though so much work has been done in 2015 and 2016 mainly to expose Muddenahalli group false claims! If senior faculty still fall for Madhu Baba then many alumni of Sai educational systems, and perhaps some other Sai devotees too, will continue to get trapped by false claim of Madhu Baba!

I would like to use Mr. Ganti's services, if he is willing, to provide publicity to this sad situation and warn Sathya Sai fraternity about such faculty. BTW I am both a former Sai organization man - around 9 years or so in 1990s and early 2000s in Dombivli samithi, Maharashtra with six Prasanthi Seva stints - and a former free service Sai educational systems teacher/faculty - from Jan. 2003 to March 2012 with designations of Honorary Staff/ Honorary Faculty/ Visiting Faculty. Given this background, it is my considered view that the Muddenahalli false belief problem was BORN and NURTURED in the Sai educational system fraternity of warden (Narasmihamurthy), vice-chancellor (Sashidhara Prasad), senior faculty (G.V. Prabhakar Rao, some Muddenahalli school senior teachers, and now Venkateswarulu and Gopi) and alumni (C.Srinivas, Madhusudan Rao Naidu himself, V. Kumar, VijaySai B.S. etc). The Sai organization in India has not been impacted so much, thankfully. We need to help non Sai student/alumni Sai devotees in India and around the world stay away from this false belief promoted by some Sai educational system fraternity! This is the very tragic and unfortunate reality that we face today in the Sathya Sai movement.

So I will go ahead and unblock Mr. Ganti and interact with him on opposing Muddenahalli group false claim, if he is willing to interact with me. I will stay completely away from anything he says regarding Prasanthi Nilayam and SSSCT. If I find that I am getting trapped again by fake Id Facebook attackers on Mr. Ganti's posts then I will stop interacting with Mr. Ganti and, if necessary, block him again.

Thanks again for your valuable advice, Ap Ramesh sir. Please feel free to advise me in future too in this matter. I repeat that I look upon you, sir, as my well wisher and so will value your advice in future too.
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Monday, December 11, 2017

Pics of two former Sai university and school senior teachers being prayerful and reverential towards Madhu Baba during his "darshan"

Last updated on 12th Dec. 2017

I am currently facing some health issues due to which I had initially decided not to write about such a sensitive matter thereby avoiding the emotional stress of writing the post and facing any negative reactions to it. I had hoped that some others would write on it in social media but I think that the Sai univeristy and Sai schools run directly under physical form Bhagavan till His Mahasamadhi, are so highly respected in the Sai fraternity that most people active on social media about Sai matters prefer to stay silent on these topics.

So I think I am the only guy who is willing to write about this topic on social media. My conscience is driving me to put up this public post. My view is that sharing these matters publicly will better inform the Sathya Sai fraternity in general, and the Sai educational institutions faculty in particular, about this sensitive topic. It is my fervent hope and prayer to Bhagavan Sri Sathya Sai Baba that current and former faculty of Sai university and schools become better acquainted with teachings and instructions of Bhagavan with respect to mediums and communicators (that he never uses them) and thereby avoid becoming Madhu Baba devotees like the two senior teachers seem to have become, going by the pics below.

Note that when Sai educational system senior teachers who had many interactions with physical form Bhagavan, become Madhu Baba devotees then it will surely influence some students and alumni of Sai educational systems to follow them and become Madhu Baba devotees themselves. That is the influence that such senior teachers have. So it is essential to educate those of such senior teachers who don't seem to know about Bhagavan's teachings and instructions regarding mediums and communicators, about them. Even after knowing these teachings and instructions of Bhagavan, if some senior teachers still associate with Muddenahalli group and view Madhu Baba as Bhagavan Sri Sathya Sai Baba at least when Madhu Baba is giving the darshan round or doing supposed "Lingodbhavam" then that is their choice and that is their destiny.

I think the claim made by Narasimhamurthy to be dream-instruction medium of Bhagavan and then the claim made by Madhusudan Rao Naidu that he is the chosen communicator who can see and interact with a so called subtle body of Bhagavan which almost nobody else can see and interact with, are the greatest spiritual tests for faculty of the Sai educational institutions in this immediate post Mahasamadhi period. Very crucially and very unfortunately for the Sai university, the then sitting vice-chancellor (VC) of Sai university, Prof. Sashidhara Prasad, privately supported Narasimhamurthy dream-instruction medium claim from around Jul 2011 (when Narasimhamurthy made the claim) till Nov. 2014 when Sashidhara Prasad stepped down as VC. The day after he stepped down as VC he was publicly seen attending the Bhagavan birthday event at Muddenahalli (he was on stage perhaps)! Since then he has publicly endorsed Muddenahalli group and is seen publicly at their events even now. But Sashidhara Prasad had limited interactions with Bhagavan physical form as faculty/administrator of SSSIHL as he became VC only in June 2010 or so. So his lack of significant exposure to physical form Bhagavan as faculty/administrator of Sai university, seems to have been his Achilles heel which led him to fall prey to Narasimhamurthy's dream-instruction medium claim.

But the two senior teachers whose pics are shared below have served in Sai educational institutions while Bhagavan was in physical form, for decades I believe! Them being prayerful and reverential to Madhu Baba is something that has deeply disturbed me.



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Here's the video of the event (92nd Birthday event at Muddenahalli): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2qvPUtxxbwA from which the above pic has been taken.

The concerned former senior sports teacher/faculty is Shri Gopi from Brindavan campus. I personally have seen how hard Shri Gopi worked at events like Grama Seva. So I have the view that he is a very dedicated and hard worker for the Sathya Sai mission. While I knew that he was now associated with Muddenahalli group, watching him in the above video being prayerful towards Madhu Baba was a shock, and was very disturbing.


The video associated with the above pic is: Thursday Satsang : 07th December, 2017, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hy1bEdoN_pg.

I believe the name of the above senior teacher formerly from Sathya Sai Higher Secondary school in Puttaparthi/Prasanthi Nilayam, is Shri Venkateswarulu (I may have got the spelling incorrectly and my apologies if so). I was told he taught Mathematics and was very respected as a teacher. Now I believe he is playing the role of warden in Muddenahalli school.

It is really astonishing to me who was a free service teacher in Prasanthi Nilayam campus of Sai university from Jan. 2003 to Mar. 2012 with designations of Honorary Staff/ Honorary Faculty/ Visiting Faculty, to see these two senior teachers be prayerful towards somebody who either was their former student (Shri Gopi) or is similar to former students of theirs. I mean, normally it is the other way around! What an extraordinary jump in spiritual status for Madhu Baba!!!

I cannot but help recall hearing Bhagavan discourse live sometime in 2000s decade, while I was sitting in Sai Kulwant Hall, where Bhagavan told us that we should not take Padanamaskar of Him from then on because we are all God and so God should not take Padanamaskar of God (or words to that effect). I bore his teachings in mind on this matter even though it was too much, and is still too much, for me to think of myself as God due to the many human flaws that I still have. But some others continued, in future, to take His Padanamaskar which Bhagavan did not object to.

After Mahasamadhi, my view of these words of Bhagavan is that Bhagavan was trying to raise us to higher spiritual levels as He knew that He would be giving up the body in a few years time. So He wanted us to believe in ourselves as divine and forge ahead in our spiritual journey. The voice of your conscience is the voice of God is what Bhagavan taught us!

As far as I know, in no discourse that Bhagavan gave in Sai Kulwant Hall after Oct. 2002 till Mahasamadhi in which period I was in Prasanthi Nilayam system, did Bhagavan ever hint at using a medium or a communicator after he gave up his body. Instead, it seems to me now looking back on this period, that he wanted us to raise ourselves from dependence on physical form of Bhagavan to move to formless aspect of Bhagavan who, Bhagavan Himself told us, is always there in the depths of the hearts of each one of us.

Given this background, I find it very disappointing to see these two senior teachers of Sai educational systems with many interactions with physical form Bhagavan, choose to accept the claim of Madhu Baba of being the so called chosen communicator of a so called subtle body of Bhagavan based in Muddenahalli which only he and almost nobody else can see and interact with - I mean, there are no other publicly designated communicators of this so called Muddenahalli subtle body. I am quite sure that Shri Gopi and Shri Venkateswarulu cannot see this so called subtle body - that is why they are reverential towards Madhusudan Rao Naidu and not any invisible body imagined to be next to Madhusudan Rao Naidu. Let us hope and pray that other faculty of Sai educational systems, especially senior faculty with many interactions with physical form Bhagavan, steer clear of this spiritual delusion dreamed up by Narasimhamurthy and Madhusudan Rao Naidu. Jai Sairam!
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Given below are comments of mine (slightly edited) from my Facebook post, https://www.facebook.com/ravi.s.iyer.7/posts/2034275476789019, associated with this blog post:

I think it is tough for students to write about their teachers, in this matter.

I learned the hard way that when we kept quiet about what was going on from Jul 2011 to end 2014, Muddenahalli group was able to grow exponentially! So the approach of just ignoring them and not exposing them, allowed them to grow! That has been a great lesson for me about Muddenahalli group and the vital need for exposing their false claims. That is why I got involved in this matter from March 2015 onwards on social media as thousands of Sathya Sai devotees worldwide were getting trapped in their false claims.

That is why I have put up this post targeted at faculty of Sai educational systems. Hopefully this post will hold back some such faculty from falling in the trap of Madhu Baba!
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Thank you so much --name-snipped-- for your support. This task that I have taken upon myself to expose false claims of Muddenahalli group is a VERY, VERY LONELY task with the added bonus of becoming a target of fierce opposition from some Muddenahalli supporters :-(. So your open support for my work in this regard is very welcome and very encouraging indeed. Thanks again and may Bhagavan Sri Sathya Sai Baba bless you for speaking up for Bhagavan's publicly shared teachings and instructions with regard to mediums and communicators (not to believe in them).
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About “Thousands of years before, a very powerful line was said in the 'Vedas', that is, “Yatha Drishti, tatha Srishti!”. It means, how you see the world, the world will appear to you in the same way.”, and eminent personalities associated with Bhagavan promoting Muddenahalli as well :

For me personally, this Muddenahalli saga brought alive the two incidents in Mahabharata where senior nobles and teachers of the Kaurava court like Bhishmacharya and Dronacharya chose to stay silent when Adharma was being done right in front of them. The first was when Draupadi was attempted to be stripped of her clothes in open court which was prevented by a miracle prompted by her prayer to Krishna. The second was when Krishna went as a peace envoy to the Kaurava court to appeal for a compromise solution to prevent war right before the Mahabharata war began. Krishna's peace offer was rejected in a rather humiliating fashion. Bhishmacharya and Dronacharya were silent witnesses to this Adharma committed right in front of them, when they surely had the ability to voice their disapproval of such behaviour from the Kaurava prince Duryodhana and his supporters. Vidura chose to object in the second case, and chose to leave the Kaurava capital instead of associating with the war that followed. Vidura stood up for Dharma to the extent he could.

As I said earlier, this Muddenahalli drama is the biggest spiritual test in this immediate post-Mahasamadhi phase of Sathya Sai movement, especially for Sai educational systems faculty. Bhagavan showered great love and attention on faculty, especially his own students who had become faculty, as he expected them to be moulders of character and spiritual values of coming generations of students taught in Sai educational systems. Regular faculty who served Bhagavan for decades were given extraordinary access to physical form Bhagavan.

That the betrayal of Bhagavan's teachings came from such senior faculty themselves - Narasimhamurthy the long-time warden of Brindavan campus of Sai university who then completely roped in not only Prof. Sashidhara Prasad, then vice-chancellor of Sai university, but many of the other senior faculty of Sai university including some student-staff in powerful administrative positions in the Sai university (e.g. Sudhir Bhaskar, then director Prasanthi Nilayam campus, Naren Ramji then and current Registrar of Sai university) - led to a period of spiritual darkness in the Sai university when Asathya-Adharma of Narasimhamurthy dream-instruction medium claim ruled top echelons of Sai university from Jul 2011 to Nov. 2014 when Sashidhara Prasad stepped down as Vice-Chancellor.

During this dark spiritual period in the Sai university when Narasimhamurthy had great power over its top echelons, most of the other faculty and staff simply followed Narasimhamurthy and Sashidhara Prasad (and quislings, Naren Ramji and Sudhir Bhaskar). Yatha Raja Tatha Praja - As is the king so are the subjects. This is the reality of what happened in the Sai university in that very dark spiritual period for the Sai university.

In the case of Alike school, the revered veteran Shri Gangadhar Bhat who also got caught up in Narasimhamurthy and then later Madhusudan Naidu's false claim, eventually not only broke away from them in late 2015/early 2016 but also PUBLICLY acknowledged his mistakes and proclaimed Madhu Baba claim of so called chosen communicator of Sathya Sai Baba as false. In the case of Sai university, there has been no such remorse and public acknowledgement for mistakes committed. Instead the traitor-collaborators (quislings) have covered up the wrongs they have done including against the loyalist and veteran Prof. Anilkumar Kamaraju by forcing him out of the Sai university in mid 2012, and continue to sit in powerful positions in the Sai university or the ashram system! Such is life in Prasanthi Nilayam ashram system now!

Coming to terms with these very unpleasant realities is a very difficult task. It is far easier to take an observer approach and say all is God's Leela and that God's will will be done. Perhaps that's what Bhishmacharya and Dronacharya may have thought at the time they chose to remain silent when Adharma was being done in the Kaurava court in front of their eyes, even though they had the ability to speak up against Adharma. [If some people are in too weak a position to speak up against Adharma then one understands their plight. But it is when they are in a strong position and can make a difference by speaking up for what is right, that their failure to speak up for what is right, becomes a significant spiritual flaw, in my considered opinion.]

Then there seems to be another school of opinion on this Muddenahalli matter. They consider that they have spiritual philosophy and associated spiritual practices which are superior to that of physical form Bhagavan Sri Sathya Sai Baba and what he taught and directed in his Prasanthi Nilayam ashram! But they want to use the name of Sathya Sai Baba for their spiritual philosophy and associated spiritual practices which is combination of selected teachings of Sathya Sai, rejection of some teachings of Sathya Sai (e.g. related to mediums and communicators, and about open solicitation of donation money), and incorporation of their own teachings delivered under the guise of dream-instructions and "communications" from so called subtle body of Sathya Sai based in Muddenahalli.

So that is their "Drishti" (vision). And their Srishti (creation) of Muddenahalli group is as per that "Drishti" of theirs!

The question is whether the Drishti is a Drishti based on Sathya and Dharma or a Drishti based on Asathya and Adharma! To me, the big issue is that they have HIJACKED the name of Sathya Sai for their modified (distorted and diluted) spiritual philosohpy. That is grave Asathya and Adharma. And I see it as my vital duty to my beloved and revered Gurudev Bhagavan Sri Sathya Sai Baba to NOT stay silent like Bhishmacharya and Dronacharya did in the Kaurava court in the incidents mentioned earlier, but to speak up for Sathya and Dharma.

If they had spread their modified spiritual philosophy and practices under the name of Narasimhamurthy Baba and Madhu Baba, all of my above objections would have vanished. Then they would not have STOLEN the HOLY NAME of Sathya Sai for their spiritual movement, and would have demonstrated the spiritual guts to have preached their spiritual gospel in THEIR OWN NAME.

Some may prefer to take a Bhishmacharya and Dronacharya approach and be silent witnesses to the Muddenahalli false belief drama unfolding in front of them. That is their choice. Jai Sairam!
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Sunday, December 10, 2017

Even though Sathya Sai spoke against mediums, medium practice among Sai devotees is 50 years old! My view on this

Last updated on 10th Dec. 2017

This post is based on a recent comment exchange I had with a person on Facebook. Given below are my comments (slightly edited) from that exchange. Those who want to view the full exchange may view the original exchange on my Facebook post here: https://www.facebook.com/ravi.s.iyer.7/posts/2032164650333435.
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In my view, Sathya Sai has given us clear unambiguous (hard) statements about not accepting mediums and communicators. Somebody can choose to ignore those statements of Sathya Sai. But that does not change the reality that Sathya Sai did make those clear statements. And, as far I can recall, Sathya Sai has made NO STATEMENT about having a chosen communicator after he gave up the body.
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Well, I am bothered by Madhusudan's words being conveyed as Sathya Sai's words, and his so called "discourses" being printed and distributed as Sathya Sai discourses. They are NOT Sathya Sai discourses. They are Madhu Baba discourses. I am deeply concerned about many people reading such discourses of Madhu Baba given in the name of Sathya Sai, getting a wrong impression of Sathya Sai teachings.
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Yes, I agree that it is common for people in Hinduism to claim that a particular God or Goddess had come into them and then speak as that God/Goddess. It is a very well established practice.

But Sathya Sai went out of his way to explain that he does not use this method and on multiple occasions publicly told devotees in very strong terms NOT to believe in such mediums or communicators when it came to their claims of mediumship about him! I think Sathya Sai may have done this, as during his lifetime itself there were many who made such claims and attracted Sathya Sai devotees. So Bhagavan told us publicly that we should not accept such claims.

Mind you, when I was offering free service (Seva) in the Sai university as a teacher (designations of Honorary Staff/Honorary Faculty/ Visiting Faculty) from Jan. 2003 to Mar. 2012, even during Bhagavan's physical journey (till April 2011), I was warned by student-staff of the Sai university about one senior faculty in Prasanthi Nilayam campus who would go around telling people about his frequent dream interactions with Swami! I repeat this was while Bhagavan was in physical form.

So I had polite interactions with the senior faculty concerned but did not allow myself to get sucked into viewing him as a special channel of Swami because of his claimed many dream interactions with Swami. Instead, my focus was on teachings of Swami and darshan gesture interactions with physical form Swami in Sai Kulwant Hall, even if Swami spoke to me only once. Though I must also say here that I did not desire or pray that Swami speak to me. I prayed only for spiritual guidance which Swami gave me, far more than I had "dreamed" of, through his discourses heard live by me in Sai Kulwant hall and his gesture interactions with me. I stress the live hearing of discourses as I had the experience that Bhagavan would answer key doubts and questions that I had, through his public discourses! I now staunchly believe that Bhagavan would know about even my doubts and questions in some divine way as he would do his darshan round - sense it among people assembled in Sai Kulwant Hall, especially staff (including me) who were blessed to be seated in places where Bhagavan could easily see them and interact with them. And then he would answer these doubts and questions, typically in a general way without referring to particular people by name, publicly via discourses! Thus his discourses have the answers to so many common and uncommon doubts and questions of spiritual aspirants!

So the point is that as Sathya Sai devotees we should follow, or try hard to follow, Sathya Sai teachings including his vital and repeated public teachings about him not communicating to his devotees through mediums. Madhu Baba may have some powers (siddhis) which enable him to know about past interactions of some Sathya Sai devotees with Swami. But those may be only siddhi powers which seem to be possible to acquire through some particular training - which Bhagavan did not publicly ever recommend, as far as I know. So Madhu Baba is NOT saying Sathya Sai's words. It is of some other power which is MASQUERADING as Sathya Sai. Now you and others may not agree with my analysis here. Fine, that's your and others' wish and choice. I have done my duty to my beloved and revered spiritual master by explaining my stand, and so my conscience is at ease.

Here is Sathya Sai in HIS OWN WORDS explaining his direct connection between Him and His devotees: Sathya Sai Baba: Direct connection between you & me, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rp-4N2W3S8c, 1 min. 12 secs.

An extract from the transcript:
Bhagavan Sri Sathya Sai Baba (in Telugu):
"Naaku Meeku Direct Connection Untundaadhi. Mana sannihitha sambandha baandhavyam evvaroo thenchadaainiki veelu kaadhu. Meeru ekkadikainaa pondi. Akkada, ikkada, ekkada choochina okkade Sai makkuvaiyunnaadu."

English translation:
"There is Direct connection between you and me. No one can break the intimate relation and relationship that we two have. Go anywhere. Here, there, wherever you see, there is only ONE SAI that you love, everywhere."
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Ravi: I am not a grihasta (grihasta means house-holder/married family man) as of now (I could get married in future; that's my choice and decision). Swami came not only for grihastas though as society has a majority of grihastas and grihastas are the vital support for sannyasis and brahmacharis, and spiritual/religious missions, Swami had, and still has, a majority of grihastas as his devotees. But Swami has had non-grihasta devotees too, of which Narasimhamurthy is one and Alike's Gangadhar Bhat sir (who has denounced Madhu Baba as fake) is another. My spiritual quest in the physical form presence of Bhagavan in Puttaparthi during the period of Oct. 2002 to April 2011 (when Bhagavan gave up his physical form) was as a non-grihasta though I do not claim to be a sannyasi. I joke that I am a semi-sannyasi :-).

Swami has answered very deep spiritual questions for me, in my spiritual quest as a non-grihasta devotee. Swami's teachings are not limited to Love All Serve All and Help Ever Hurt Never. Swami has spoken and written on Upanishads (Upanishad Vahini), Brahma Sutra (Sutra Vahini), Bhagavad Gita (Gita Vahini) as well as on Karma Kanda of Vedas (Samhita and Brahmana part of Vedas). People like me were very powerfully attracted to Swami by these discourses and writings of His on core spiritual philosophy of Hindus. Now many Sathya Sai devotees may not read or study these deep philosophical writings and commentaries of Sathya Sai, and instead focus on simple teachings of Swami. That's their choice. But if they have the view that Swami's teachings are meant only for simple Grihastas and do not cover deep Hindu spiritual philosophy topics then they are very much mistaken.

About your comment of medium practice of Sai devotees being 50 year old: Perhaps you are right. In my samithi in Dombivli (Maharashtra state) in the 1990s there was one person who claimed that Swami would write letter responses to those who place letters to Swami in his home's altar. Many samithi people went there but the official Sai orgn. Samithi view as per the convener, which was based on Swami instructions on these matters, was that we should not believe such claims. I chose to follow the official Sai orgn. Samithi view based on Swami instructions, and so did not believe in those claims. However, I was friendly with the person who had made those claims.

In this matter, what I see as my duty to Bhagavan is to point out to readers what Swami has said about mediumship (that we should not believe in it). If people want to keep aside this aspect of Swami's teachings and follow mediums then that is their choice - their life, their choice. But I will not accept that what they are doing is right or that what they are doing is according to Swami teachings and instructions.

The BIG PROBLEM is that some people, including Muddenahalli group, are distorting Swami's teachings and instructions in this regard, to convey a FALSE VIEW that Swami approved of mediums and communicators. That is Asathyam and Adharmam. And those who do such Asathya and Adharma against their Guru with whom they have had many interactions at physical form level, are betraying their Guru and are traitors to their Guru. That's my considered view.

If they feel that they have a superior spiritual philosophy than Bhagavan Sri Sathya Sai Baba, let them make that claim and spread their teachings and spiritual philosophy in their own name! Then there is no distortion of Sathya Sai legacy. Let Narasimhamurthy, Sashidhara Prasad, C. Srinivas and Madhusudan Naidu give their spiritual discourses as Narasimhamurthy Baba, Sashidhara Prasad Baba, C. Srinivas Baba and Madhu Baba. India's freedom of religion laws allows them to proclaim their new cult and spread their new cult's teachings but in their own names and NOT by stealing their Guru's name and distorting their Guru's legacy as a way to cash in on the popularity of their Guru and tap his wealthy devotees for donation money.
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I should like to add that Narasimhamurthy, Sashidhara Prasad, C. Srinivas and Madhusudan Naidu's strategy to steal their Guru's name for their cult group's philosophy and practice, and attract donation money from wealthy Sathya Sai devotees who fall for their false belief claims, CANNOT BE JUSTIFIED simply because they have created, and will be creating more of, free schools, colleges (a private/deemed university is planned for the near future, I believe) and super-speciality hospitals (in one medical area alone - pediatric cardiology) in India. All that wonderful free Seva that is done with such donation money and with people who work hard in such institutions whom I respect for their hard work and service to society, does not wipe out the BIG SIN they (leaders of Muddenahalli group) have done by distorting the teachings of their own Guru with respect to mediumship even though they have had many direct physical form level interactions with their Guru, and by misguiding thousands of their own Guru's devotees using their own Guru's name (and NOT their name like Narasimhamurthy Baba, Sashidhara Prasad Baba, C. Srinivas Baba and Madhu Baba). If these fellows had spiritual guts they would have spread their spiritual philosophy and practices under their own name and not stolen Sathya Sai Baba's name for their WARPED and FALSE teachings and practice with respect to mediumship claims related to Sathya Sai.
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What Swami did not do, in his physical form, based on what I personally know during my Sai university stint from Jan. 2003 till a little after Swami Mahasamadhi, and what I have heard from ashram people about earlier times, was instruct people in paths to gain siddhis. You have mentioned Dasha Maha Vidya upasana. I do not know of that upasana in particular. But I have read about other such upasanas to be done under guidance of masters experienced in such things, which enable people to gain siddhis (paranormal powers like mind reading and small level of materialization or object transference from another place). Kerala is supposed to have some tantra schools in this matter. I am told that there are also Muslim schools dealing with such siddhis in Kerala.

But Swami did not do any teaching of such siddhi powers to his devotees and, in particular, to his students of Sai university, to the best of my knowledge. Instead Swami has discouraged students who acquire such powers from misusing them! The entire short contents from my blog post: https://ravisiyer.blogspot.in/2015/08/sathya-sai-to-students-about-famous.html, dated Aug. 2015, is given below:

Sathya Sai to students about a famous Indian tantrik

The following was recently conveyed to me by somebody over email. I find it to be quite plausible. However, I cannot verify it, neither do I personally know the original source. Swami is Bhagavan Sri Sathya Sai Baba in the sentences below (slightly edited):

What Swami once told his students about [famous-tantrik-name-snipped] who was with Narasimha Rao in the darshan: "He has powers of the Devi Shakti and is misusing them. My dear students, you do not do that please."

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Ravi: I think this is a clear statement from Bhagavan Sri Sathya Sai Baba to Sai university students and alumni which I am sure would apply even more to teachers, wardens, senior administrators etc. (both current and former), that they SHOULD NOT misuse any siddhis (paranormal powers) they may acquire or somehow come to possess.
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Firstly thanks for politely engaging with me on this topic and sharing your views. We may agree on some matters and disagree on some matters but it is important for me that such disagreement is polite, as far as possible. Once the disagreement descends into harsh name-calling without logic to defend the usage of that name, then that's when I tend to switch off from the conversation. I have to say here that I use words like traitor and hypocrite in some posts but I usually provide a logic to such usage. In the case where I don't provide the logic, usually it is to warn the person that if he wants I am in a position to provide details of why I call him hypocrite. Then it is upto the person to either stay quiet or challenge me. If he challenges me then I am ready to provide the details and logic about why I called him a hypocrite.

In our exchange here, we have been able to keep the areas where we disagree within the realm of polite conversation. Thanks for that politeness.

1) Regarding lots of money being pumped into Muddenahalli group charity works and related comments: Whatever donation money that Muddenahalli group has acquired through their promotion of FALSE BELIEF of so called communicator (Madhusudan Rao Naidu) and so called dream-instruction medium (Narasimhamurthy) of Sathya Sai, from devotess of Sathya Sai is, in my considered view, money collected by Asathya-Adharma means (untruthful and unethical means). That money being used to provide wonderful and laudable free service in area of education and health especially to poor and needy people does NOT change the FACT that they collected money through Asathya and Adharma. Bhagavan Sri Sathya Sai was very, very particular as expressed in public discourses, and through the Sathya Sai organization, about NOT SOLICITING MONEY for service activities. Muddenahalli group has clearly broken those instructions and guidelines of Bhagavan for their service activities as they rather blatantly appeal to and encourage people to donate money. I am told but I have not been able to verify its truth that at times they even spiritually pressure people who are under Madhu Baba sway for donation money.

But I have never, as far as I can recall, said that Muddenahalli group are running an illegal business let alone anything as lowly as a brothel. While I have been very, very critical of Narasimhamurthy for his betrayal of Bhagavan's teachings and instructions with respect to mediums and communicators, I have not got one credible report about Narasimhamurthy being financially corrupt. Not one such credible report! Further, I have not received any report whatsoever that Narasimhamurthy has transgressed his celibacy status (perhaps vow). Celibacy is not an easy thing to achieve for a man. It is undoubtedly a great achievement in the Hindu tradition spiritual path for a man to be celibate so as to dedicate himself to spirituality and Hindu religion. Irrespective of all my criticism of Narasimhamurthy, I respect him for his great achievement of celibacy and dedication to Hindu spiritual life. He has also provided inspiration for others to lead such celibate lives dedicated to a spiritual mission, including some faculty who serve today in senior positions in Bhagavan's Sai university.

So if anybody finds anything in my public writings where I have made allegations about Muddenahalli group running an illegal business or anything even remotely related to a brothel, I am willing to publicly apologize and seek forgiveness from those that I wronged by making such allegations. It will be a ghor paap karma (grave sinful act) to allege anything about sexual impropriety related to Narasimhamurthy and his role as a mentor of Muddenahalli group educational institutions, without having strong evidence that supports those allegations. I certainly will not want to be associated in any way with such ghor paap karma (grave sinful act) as that will have severe negative impact on my own spiritual quest and journey.

2) I wrote in my earlier comment, "But I have read about other such upasanas to be done under guidance of masters experienced in such things, which enable people to gain siddhis (paranormal powers like mind reading and small level of materialization or object transference from another place). Kerala is supposed to have some tantra schools in this matter."

I did not say that Tantra is black magic. I believe, there are safe Tantric paths and unsafe and very dangerous Tantric paths. Every now and then we read reports even today in India of horrible human sacrifice (usually a child) done or advised by some person referred to as Tantrik. Though I must also say that I don't recall such reports from Kerala. So one cannot escape the fact that some tantrik practices even today are horrible and dangerous.

I think siddhis being acquired seems to be part of both safe and unsafe Tantra. And yes, rigorous training would be needed to acquire those siddhis. But the main point here is that Sathya Sai encouraged sadhana like Namasmarna and Veda chanting for spiritual progress of individuals and community, and not sadhana to acquire siddhis. Whereas some tantra schools in Kerala seem to provide a path for siddhis through rigorous training.

Now tantra may also lead to self-realization which may be the focus of some tantra schools. But it seems to me based on reports I have got, that there are tantra teachers and practitioners in India today, including Kerala, who are into using their siddhi power for financial or other gain, and teach their disciples/students about how to acquire such siddhis. Their students/disciples, after acquiring those siddhis, would also tend to use those powers for financial and other gain - I mean, that's how they would be earning their living.

And thanks for the kind words about me not being a fanatic spiritual guy :-).
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Well, the newspaper articles report the REALITY that some unsafe tantrik practitioners are into horrible child sacrifice stuff even today in India. I think that is undeniable. Now they may be bad tantriks but they do follow some tantrik traditions.

The good tantra schools may stay away from such things today. That's good. But I think we should view them as safe and good tantra schools and not deny that bad tantra exists in India today.

You said, "... swami is supporting it". I did not follow.

About Lord Krishna being a tantric practitioner, I have not read of such claims. Lord Krishna went to a traditional (vedic, I guess) guru to do his schooling-equivalent.
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Noted that you meant Swami is NOT supporting it.

About Vaidikam in practice being Thantrikam: That is something that I find hard to accept but I do not know enough about Thantrikam (tantra) to, as of now, argue why I find it hard to accept. Note that I was following Vedic (Vaidikam) practices in my home till I was around 40 years old even though I was not very devout about it when I was in my late teens and twenties. I have also done a fair amount of reading or browse-reading of English translations of Vedic texts like popular versions of RigVeda samhita, brahmana, SamaVeda Samhita, YajurVeda brahmana (Shatapatha Brahmana), and some Aranyakas, and many Upanishads.

Having said that, let me be very clear that I am very respectful of non-Vedic Hindu religious traditions as well. I am not a Vedic superiority kind of fellow. Veda, Tantra and so many other Hindu traditions are all ways to the same Brahman (God in absolute form).

I am all for safe Tantra traditions to flourish, and good Tantra schools ensuring that any misunderstood or bad Tantra, as viewed from our early 21st century lens in India, is consigned to oblivion. Note that Vedic sacrifices involved animal sacrifices in the past. Those traditions seem to have been removed from current Vedic practices as taught in various Vedic schools. I think something similar should happen for Tantra so that safe Tantra gets viewed in society as a whole as a respectable path towards spiritual progress.
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Friday, December 8, 2017

Who would have thought that Madhu Baba would be worshiped as Swami by his own former teachers of the Sai university! Thank God Satyajit Salian did not do any such Madhu Baba type impersonation

Last updated on 10th Dec. 2017

Some time back today, I saw a recent so called darshan video of so called chosen communicator Madhusudan Rao Naidu, https://www.facebook.com/srisathyasaivrinda/videos/734574910071374/. The guy has become so confident now in this role! Narasimhamurthy (once we used to refer to him respectfully as Narasimhamurthy sir) now comes across as the dutiful elderly assistant of Madhu Baba during Madhu Baba's darshan round! One of the Parthi school teachers who has joined Muddenahalli group is seen reverentially speaking to Madhu Baba like he would have spoken to real physical form Bhagavan Sri Sathya Sai Baba!

My God! The craving that some people have for physical form interaction with Swami is to such an extent that for them now Madhu Baba is Swami!

Prior to Madhu Baba public drama debut in May 2014, even in my wildest dreams I would not have thought that people like Narasimhamurthy - long time warden of Sai university Brindavan campus - and one senior teacher of Parthi school and one Sai university Brindavan campus senior sports teacher (not seen in this video but seen in another recent video with reverential folded hands in front of Madhu Baba) would be behaving in public in this reverential manner to one of the students of the Sai university! Madhu Baba was a student at Brindavan campus and so at that time, would have had folded hands in front of his then warden, Narasimhamurthy, and his senior sports teacher. Now the roles have reversed! No wonder, the world is called MahaMaya (the great illusion)!

I mean, if they had done to this to some great form boy with physical form Bhagavan e.g. Satyajit Salian, I could have had some understanding of it, as Bhagavan favoured and trusted Satyajit in a very big way that was well known and even visible to anybody who was a regular in Parthi system. But Madhusudan Rao Naidu was a nobody in Prasanthi Nilayam/Parthi system, as far as I know. Who would have thought that he would now be worshipped as Swami by his own teachers of the Sai university!!!

Here I must express my appreciation for Shri Satyajit Salian that he did not fall into this impersonator trap that Madhu Baba has got into, and where Madhu Baba is misguiding thousands of Sathya Sai devotees across the world, including many children of Muddenahalli group associated educational institutions, using the holy name of Shiva-Shakti Swarupa, Kali Yuga Avatar, Bhagavan Sri Sathya Sai Baba. I must also say here that I am sure that if Satyajit had got into such a drama act like Madhu Baba, he would have been a much bigger hit than Madhu Baba!

I hope Satyajit continues to sincerely follow Bhagavan's teachings related to mediums and communicators by not getting into any Madhu Baba drama type of stuff, even if he has had to face a lot of turbulence in the recent past in Prasanthi Nilayam. Eventually the respect and affection that Satyajit will have in the Sathya Sai fraternity at large will be based on how well he adheres to Bhagavan's teachings.

I have to say here: Thank God Satyajit did not do any Madhu Baba type drama! If that had happened, those of us who have been loyal to Bhagavan's teachings about not believing mediums and communicators (wrt Bhagavan), and who now are into publicly warning Sathya Sai fraternity about such false claims, would have been at our wit's end. And so I think it is appropriate for us (including me) to thank Shri Satyajit Salian for not having got into any Madhu Baba type impersonator deception.
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Given below is one of my comments from my Facebook post, https://www.facebook.com/ravi.s.iyer.7/posts/2032164650333435, associated with this post:

About Madhu Baba speech excerpts shared by --name-snipped-- above: I think Madhu Baba is either deluded or is deliberately faking it. Let me give him the benefit of the doubt and call it delusion. That his delusion was endorsed and promoted by Narasimhamurthy, former vice-chancellor Sai university, Prof. Sashidhara Prasad, C. Srinivas, etc. was what made him a credible figure to many Sathya Sai devotees. Without the support of these persons, Madhu Baba would not have come anywhere close to the big show that he has now.

If he had followed the examples of Bala Sai Baba of Kurnool and Sanjay Sai Baba of Nepal by proclaiming himself as, say Madhu Sai Baba and given darshan, interviews and discourses in Madhu Sai Baba name (and not Sathya Sai Baba name), I would not have had these strong objections to him that I now have. Bala Sai Baba and Sanjay Sai Baba too seem to have philanthropic work. Madhu Sai Baba too could have had philanthropic work like them IN HIS OWN NAME.

And I think Madhu Baba has got car promotion to Bentley, a helicopter to fly around and private charter flights. His Mercedez Benz colleagues and villa colleagues referred to by him in his speech extract above, would probably be green with envy at the material comforts that Madhu Baba enjoys when travelling! I mean, his Merc friends may not be flying around in helicopters in India (unless they have become industry titans or political leaders).
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